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Title: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Thursday 15 September 16 10:39 BST (UK)
I'd be very grateful for any pointers on records of transportation to and return from Australia.  An ancestor went to New South Wales in 1801, we think, became pregnant and had a daughter on Mauritius (or Isle de France as it was called) in about 1809 on her way back home. We wonder if this was a case of transportation, although she would have been very young when she went to NSW (about 10).

They both returned to Gloucestershire, and the daughter's birthplace was listed as Isle of France on a census form.  The mother's name was Mary Bowden b about 1791 in Gloucestershire, and the daughter was Ann Roderick Bowden.  I can find nothing in the criminal records on Anc???ry.co.uk   

If anyone else has done similar research and knows of any sources of information it would be great.
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: t mo on Thursday 15 September 16 14:51 BST (UK)
hi
dont know if your aware that any person transported had on release to pay for there own passage home if they could afford it hence why so many made a new life where they were imprisoned .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Thursday 15 September 16 17:33 BST (UK)
Many thanks Trevor - I didn't know that.     
Maryb
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: Ringrose on Thursday 15 September 16 18:15 BST (UK)
I think there are a couple of websites which list and give information on transportation.Try googling transportation to Australia .A few years ago I found the name of a young girl sent to Australia for stealing cloth from her mistress.The boat she went on plus others on the crowds boat were listed.
Ringrose
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: LisaRobinson87 on Thursday 15 September 16 19:09 BST (UK)
Possibly her
Mary Bowden
Convicted at:   Devon Quarter Sessions
Sentence term:   7 years
Ship:   Earl Cornwallis
Departure date:   August, 1800
Arrival date:   12th June, 1801
Place of arrival   New South Wales
Passenger manifest   Travelled with 292 other convicts

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/bowden/mary/82705
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Friday 16 September 16 17:41 BST (UK)
Ringrose and Lisa - many thanks for the information.  I'll get cracking on the search for Devon criminal records, and look at the web info on the Earl Cornwallis.
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Tuesday 20 September 16 12:32 BST (UK)
No Luck I'm afraid.  The Mary Bowden transported to NSW on the Earl Cornwallis arriving 1801 was still in NSW in 1825, so she could not have returned to England with a child and then married Thomas Willey in Gloucestershire in 1819.  Never mind, I'll keep searching for other possibilities.  Thanks to all who replied on this one.

Mary
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: jorose on Tuesday 20 September 16 20:28 BST (UK)
As a birth in 1809/1810 puts her in Mauritius around the time that the British took over, I wonder if there's a military or naval connection? She could have been in Australia as the family of a sailor or soldier.

There are some online records from the French period in their "overseas archives":
http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/anom/en/Recherches/IREL.html
These are not name-indexed, you would have to pick "Digitised Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths", and then go through the surviving records for each town to see if Ann or any Bowdens (or Rodericks?) are listed.
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Wednesday 21 September 16 15:18 BST (UK)
JoRose,

Thanks, I'll have a look.

Mary
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: rosball on Sunday 09 October 16 00:45 BST (UK)
The first mention of a BOWDEN in NSW newspapers was a Matt BOWDEN, first assistant surgeon, who arrived in 1803 as part of the Civil and Military Establishment of the
intended Settlement.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article625895

Ros

adding : http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/bowden-matthew-1808
(doesn't mention family  :(  and I guess he was too young to have a 10 year old daughter)

Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: majm on Sunday 09 October 16 03:01 BST (UK)
The first mention of a BOWDEN in NSW newspapers was a Matt BOWDEN, first assistant surgeon, who arrived in 1803 as part of the Civil and Military Establishment of the
intended Settlement.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article625895

Ros

adding : http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/bowden-matthew-1808
(doesn't mention family  :(  and I guess he was too young to have a 10 year old daughter)

He did have children,   a daughter named Anne, and a son named Matthew, and a son named William Henry BOWDEN see below.

There are a number of lasses in NSW in 1801 who may have been Mary BOWDEN and the surname may have been recorded as BOWEN, ROWAN, ROWEN, RAGAN, etc ... many variations.

The C of E burial register for St Phillips, Sydney (NSW) has an adult named Mary Bowden buried 12 July 1802.  This is clearly NOT the Mary Bowden who arrived under a transportation sentence per the Earl Cornwallis in June 1801 as that Mary is listed in later Musters, eg 1806, 1811, and later and in the 1820s is shown as the wife of George TILLY in the Windsor district of NSW.


The NSW Colonial Secretary’s papers has interesting entries in their index, including noting Matthew BOWDEN’s will of 6 Oct 1811.  Ancestry has partnership arrangement with NSW State Records,
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/default.htm

6 October 1811. Anne Elizabeth BOWDEN is a beneficiary under her father’s will.  He was Mathew BOWDEN.   
6 October 1811, Matthew BOWDEN Junior is a beneficiary under his father’s will.
6 October 1811, William Henry BOWDEN, a beneficiary under his father's will.

I have not searched for Mrs BOWDEN, mother of these three to check her given name

Matthew BOWDEN, Surgeon, ……. 6 Oct 1811 his will……. Died suddenly October 1814.

The Col Sec's index has just ONE Mary BOWDEN arriving in 1801. 

JM
Title: Re: Transportation - Help please - where to look for records?
Post by: maryb99 on Sunday 16 October 16 15:54 BST (UK)
Ros & JM,

Thanks so much for this detailed work.  It will take me a little time to go through it all, but I'll be sure to update all who have posted as soon as I find any answers. 

Best regards

Mary