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General => Technical Help => Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation => Topic started by: Kinsy on Thursday 22 September 16 22:40 BST (UK)
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I want to put our family tree online so all the family can access it. But which is the best website?
I tried Ancestry but don't like their layout - it's far too large and spread out - and all that scrolling around is quite tiresome.
Is there a website which has a nice compact view? like PAF, for example, where you can see a family group of 3 generations, with dates/places etc at a glance.
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I believe Familysearch now takes family trees.
But be careful and make it private, with only your designated persons able to access it.
Or you might find info 'lifted' just like people seem to do with Ancestry trees.
Dawn M
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Yes, I had thought of posting it on FamilySearch, Dawn.
But I checked with FamilySearch and the trees on their site are "collaborative" - i.e. one big family - so anyone can apparently make changes or merge trees, and I do not want that to happen.
Same goes for trees on Geni.
There are several errors in some branches of our tree that have been perpetuated in many of the online trees, and I do not want to risk having those errors included in my tree. My favourite error was a son who was born 15 years after his father died !!
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You can have a tree on Tribal Pages without having to pay a subscription, it is private unless you invite someone to view it, you have to give them a password for them to gain access.
Jebber
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Thanks, Jebber. I'll have a look at Tribal Pages
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I agree with Jebber, Tribalpages is my choice. The security level can be set to your needs, from open to all through to so secure you cannot find the site yourself. I know this because......
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I'll third that.
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You can have a tree on Tribal Pages without having to pay a subscription, it is private unless you invite someone to view it, you have to give them a password for them to gain access.
Jebber
If your subscription is not renewed though you cannot edit the tree, as I have found out, when I wanted to change something.
OK ignore the last comment, I have just tried again and it has let me do it--senior moment folks sorry 8)
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I too recommend Tribalpages, so easy to use & navigate as well as being free.
Annie
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Useful info, Jebber - I was wondering what would happen if you stop paying subs, and can't find any info about that on TP website.
My tree has about 500 photos, so I would need premium subscription at least. But don't know how long I can afford to pay that. I'm not going to be here forever (thank goodness ;D) and wouldn't like all that info to be lost in the ethernet.
Do you know whether, if I stopped paying, my family would also still be able to access the tree ?
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With the free version anyone you give the password to can view it.
I believe if your sub runs out they limit the number of photos you can view. In other words your paid site becomes a free site.
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I have never paid a subscription to Tribal Pages, so have not had to concern myself with how many photos I could have. It is just useful for giving others access to my tree if I wish.
I would never rely on an on line tree, much better to have a family history programme on your own computer, I keep mine backed up on multiple a memory sticks, an external hard drive and cloud. You could also do any of these things and still have a tree on Tribal Pages.
Jebber
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You can also purchase from Tribalpages a DVD or flashdrive of your tree. It will be the same as the online version to view but you will not be able to do anything to it. A "permanent" record. You could of course print off the pages of your tree ::) :)
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I agree, Jebber - would much rather just keep the tree on my computer - regularly backed up, of course ;D. But our family is spread across four continents and they can't access it - or add info etc etc. Some have Macs, so can't read my software anyway.
So the only solution is to put it online and limit access to our family.
It's going to be a big job though - gedcoms don't include the pics, so they're all going to have to be re-attached in the online tree.
Still can't decide which website though .... subscription ? or uncomfy layout ?
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I've been looking at Tribal Pages, and wondered how you upload sources onto the tree?
Do you upload one family line at a time or is it just one file as I would like to include my grandparents lines. Was hoping to use the free subscription for this. Many thanks :)
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You can upload a gedcom, or build your tree from scratch o
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You can have a tree on Tribal Pages without having to pay a subscription, it is private unless you invite someone to view it, you have to give them a password for them to gain access.
Would recommend Tribal Pages, I have a 'partial' tree on there.
Easy to set up, easy to navigate, simple & effective.
Annie
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This thread has spurred me on to put a limited access tree online for when I shuffle....
A distant cousin in Canada has a 'My Heritage' tree. Just wondered if anyone had comments or a comparison to make between TP & MH?
Josey
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Will give it a go, I didn't want to put my tree on a pay per view site, and this seems about the best out there. I like the idea that anyone can find me without having to pay for a subscription too. I'll probably opt to be open to all. :D
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If you don't mind getting your hands dirty you can rent some web-space of your own, install free software in that space to display (or edit) your tree to any or all you wish. The advantages are:
- You're in control of the data, layout and access to your site
- You can synchronize/backup data to/from your desktop computer or whatever whenever it suits
- You can test your program to ensure it's gedcom compliant
The trouble with relying on a service is that they can pull the plug whenever, you're stuck with their limitations and format, you have no idea where else your data might be going and they are not likely to be liable if things go wrong. If you think all of that is unlikely, take a look at the number of projects big names like Google and Yahoo have started and then dropped over the years - dozens, with lots of upset users as a result.
The Tribal Pages deluxe version is about £35 a year. You can get unlimited webspace with a free .co.uk domain name for less than that (for example https://www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk/) and install your own software (for example https://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/ or demo here https://dev.webtrees.net/demo-stable/index.php?ctype=gedcom&ged=demo). You can also use that space for anything else you want .... your own little 'cloud'.
It takes a little more effort than using a service like Tribal Pages or Ancestry but the benefits outweigh that effort IMO.
PS I have no affiliation to any of those links!
Alternative software:
http://www.humogen.com/
...or export from your desktop FH program to web format and upload that for a read-only website.
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That sounds interesting, Paul thanks.
I have a limited experience of managing a - homemade - website or which I needed 'cuteftp' or similar. Would I need somesuch under the arrangement you suggest?
Josey
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Usually when you buy webspace these days it comes with a familiar file manager built in to your account 'control panel' for transferring files, rather than using an ftp client (although you can still do that of course).
If you use Webtrees or similar, you just need to make sure your web package includes at least one MySQL database - you'll need it to store your data :D
Paul
EDIT: Setting up Webtrees or Humogen is usally just a case of downloading the program and unzipping it on your PC then uploading it to your webspace (via control panel or ftp). Next step is usually to run a set up script on your site by visiting the appropriate page (something like www.mysite/programdirectory/setup ) and following the instructions.
Good news is you can try all that without spending any money because you can get some free webspace (with mysql) from somewhere like https://www.000webhost.com/ It's a bit slow sometimes but it does allow you to experiment ad infinitum for nowt!
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Thanks, might give that a go..... ;)
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I have been looking at using http://humogen.com/index.php (http://humogen.com/index.php) once I get my host sorted out. Looks like a good option.
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I've used Humogen a fair bit; its pretty good BUT the editing interface is poor. I use Webtrees as my primary FH program (but running on my PC not on the net!).
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I set up an account with Tribalpages a couple of weeks ago after a few people on this site recommended it but nothing as yet has shown up in the search box for the surnames I've entered for my family. I read somewhere on their help forums that they update the site in the middle and end of the month so I was hopeful that my surnames would appear in the search box by now but it hasn't! I've checked my privacy settings and it all seems fine and the box is ticked so my names should show in the names directory.
I'm now looking around at other sites, mainly Genes Reunited and Myheritage and wondered if other rootschatters had any tips about using these sites.
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I am not sure what you are trying to do?
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Hi yountug, I'm trying to put my family tree onto the free website Tribalpages but getting nowhere :(
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Have you signed up?
http://www.tribalpages.com/
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I have one of my trees on Tribal pages, to be honest now I have got used to it I find it very good.
Frank. :)
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I cannot see any problems starting a tree on Tribalpages. I have had my tree o there for several years. Plus a couple more.
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I cannot see any problems starting a tree on Tribalpages. I have had my tree o there for several years. Plus a couple more.
I agree, I've been on mine this morning and I think it's very user friendly and easy to navigate.
Frank.
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I have just started a tree.
It took about 10 minutes, or less.
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The trouble I'm having is not how to put my family tree onto Tribalpages, I've registered, logged in and created my tree on the site with no problems at all. It's the fact that when I do a search for my surname the website doesn't bring up any of the names on my tree. ??? Could it be because I've opted for a free account?
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Being free will not effect it
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Tell me a name and I will search
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Many thanks youngtug, try Richard Coulman born 1798 Lincolnshre died 1862 Newington Surrey.
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No luck
What about your security setting. I have a tree on Tribalpages,,somewhere,, I set the security so high it is locked away completely. ::)
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Just a thought..........have you ticked the circle to say they are dead.?
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I have my settings set on Membership Model and medium privacy and for site features the tribalpages directory are ticked for deceased related
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Yes. ???
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No joy searching here as well ???
Frank.
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Thanks for trying :)
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I meant that have you clicked on the deceased "button" in the edited details of the people you have entered.
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I have just had a look at the new tribalpages site I made yesterday, there was this message when I looked;- "There are currently no names from your site in the search database. Deceased Ancestors that meet the criteria below will be included in the next update of our Directory.
Should be marked as Deceased AND
Have death Information (Date or Place)
OR born before 1900
Those names that are marked as deceased but do not meet the above criteria will not be included in our directory.
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I shall always have a subscription with Tribal Pages as I like the sheer simplicity of it.
Lately I have become very involved with wikitree.com and just love it it's free and 'self regulating' and makes subscribers apply a discipline to whatever they do.
I am currently loading my tree into it and very often any change I may make (additions etc.) are very soon matched by others and a complete update is posted to you every Wednesday.
Very much worth a look.
Joe
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I have just used http://www.findmypast.co.uk for £1 a month offer that was highlighted as a thread on http://www.rootschat.com.
They did remind me that you can build a family tree with them. Can I still build an online tree without paying the subscription fee?
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yes
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Help, please.
:-\ I'm biting the bullet and registering with Tribal Pages. But being a dim wit and not having done anything like this before I have no idea what to use as a website id, since it can't be changed I don't want to do something daft ???
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I think you can change the name of your website at a later date if you want
But the id is not changeable I see
Just a name such has the one you have here on RC will do
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I think you can change the name of your website at a later date if you want
But the id is not changeable I see
Just a name such has the one you have here on RC will do
I see, thank you, I thought I might have to do something a bit cleverer ::) ;D