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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: alliech on Tuesday 27 September 16 18:08 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help me with my gt grandmother who was born in a Dublin Workhouse
Bridget Reilly was born 29 Aug 1890 (birth register states 'in workhouse') to Mary Brady and George Reilly of 58 Church St. She was baptised 30 Aug 1890 in St Paul's.
What I would like to know is:
*Which 'workhouse' exactly would this have been?
*If her father's address is given (58 Church St) does that mean then that it was Bridget and her mother only in the workhouse?
*Is there a possibility that Bridget's parents were not married at the time of her birth? They went on to have two more children (not born in the workhouse)
The other two children, Mary Ann (born 29 Dec 1892 - 17 Wards Cottages) and Christina (born 26 Dec 1895 - 16 Wards Cottages) Can someone tell me where exactly and what were Wards Cottages
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated
Jacqui
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Workhouses usually had a hospital attached so she may not have been an inmate of the workhouse just went in with a difficult birth.
This is good Dublin City Council has a photo of Ward's Cottages.
http://www.dublincity.ie/image/libraries/061-wards-cottages
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Hi Sinann,
Thank you. I never thought of that.
A poignant photo, to say the least. I saw another of his showing Angle/Angel Court (off Beresford St) very sad and thought provoking
Thanks again
Jacqui
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I'm trying to find Ward Cottages on the OSI mapviewer.
The 1911 Census has it under Arran Quay, working north from there I'm up to the North Union Workhouse, still have not found the Cottages but I see a Ward bridge near the Work house. I think I'm gone too far north though.
I'll look a bit more
Ah ha they are off Church St.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000103626/
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I see that now myself. So was Ward's Cottages/Church St any where near a workhouse and which one?
I see too that the Parish is St Michan's and yet Bridget was baptised in St Pauls
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Can't find them, there is loads of little groups of houses with no names.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,714857,734394,11,9
Some where in this area.
Church st. runs from Whitworth bridge up to May Street.
I would think Ward's Cottages is somewhere on the left hand side. ie behind Arran Quay. (Which of course is where St.Paul's Church is)
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St Mitchan's would be the Civil Parish I think. I'll check that out a bit.
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Yes St Michan's is one of the Civil Parishes covered by St Paul's RC parish.
https://www.johngrenham.com/places/civil_in_rc.php?churchid=0501&county=&church_name=St.%20Paul%27s,%20Dublin%20city
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Have another look at Bridget's birth cert. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02410/1898464
NDU is written above workhouse, all the certs on the page have it.
Stands for North Dublin Union
Which is north of Arran Quay
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,714701,734906,11,9
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Even easier to see on the older map.
You can see the Workhouse
St Michan's written on the map
and Arran Quay below them at the river.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,714674,734656,10,8
Church St is clearer as well.
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Sinann,
This has all been fantastic. Thank you so much for all your help and information. Keep it coming.........
Jacqui
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I see in 1911 they say they are married 21 years, which would have been the year Bridget was born, I don't see their marriage yet though.
Very sad to see the Bridget and Christina died.
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Stirrup_Lane/1337582/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Beresford_Street__West_Side/37357/
Neither was from Dublin so I wonder did they meet in Dublin or somewhere else.
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In actual fact Bridget went on to marry my gt grandfather John Flood in 1910 and had seven children of her own. Passing away in 1955 aged 65.
Mary Ann never married. In her early twenties she was caught in crossfire, during the Easter Rising (1916) losing her leg. She herself would pass away in 1972 aged 80, although records show 66. At the time of her death she was living in Church St
Christina, I have yet to find details. But I'll keep looking
I'm not sure what was meant in the 1911 census - 3 children born, 1 living.
Bridget as I've said was alive and living in Beresford St with her husband John.
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If they did marry, I can't find a Civil Cert of it, which isn't unusual but I don't see one in the Dublin RC records which are online but not all of them would go up to the 1890s
St.Paul's stops 1882.
If they married out side Dublin, you have the same problem the RC online record's won't go up to the 1890s.
Now I have to go refill the shelves before I get myself fired :D
Hang on just seeing your post. People often thought the Living column meant children living with them. Common mistake that catches us out quite often.
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Back to work FAST!!!!
To see when you next have a free min........ I didn't realise that about the '1 living' You learn something new all the time. Well I do.
I just found that Christina died in 1909 aged 13. All I find is children dying. Product of the times, I know, but still very sad
All the very best
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If they did marry in St.Paul's as you would expect, the marriage MIGHT be on RootsIreland but it's a subscription site.
http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/ifhf/sources.tpl
They have Arran Quay/Glasnevin marriages up to 1900.
Some of the variant names for St.Pauls is Arran Quay and Old Glasnevin
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0501
If you have a Find My Past sub, they have some records from the workhouses, if you want to check if Mary shows up.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ikv/