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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Chelle71 on Thursday 29 September 16 19:17 BST (UK)
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Hello
Thankyou for sparing your time to read .
Im currently looking for Alice Webb b 1786 in Leagrave Bedfordshire , by 1841 shes married to John Skinner and living in Hertfordshire . Ive no idea who her parents are , Ive looked on familysearch but had no luck . This lady has been my quest for years
Kind Regards
Chelle
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A possibility:
Alice Webb and John Skinner on 22 February 1811 at Redbourn, Hertfordshire.
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Have you checked the marriage entry to see if the witnesses provide a clue?
Leagrave was a hamlet of Luton. On the IGI there's a baptism in Luton on 26 Sep 1790 of Aice (sic) Webb daughter of Robert and Elizabeth. I'd be looking at this to see if there's any more detail. Robert and Elizabeth also baptised two sons in Luton. Was their abode Leagrave?
Not entirely convinced about this one given the age discrepancy compared to Alice Skinner living in Redbourn b Leagrave in censuses, and it doesn't look as though she was a late baptism, as her parents married in 1786 and baptised a son in 1787. But there's no other marriage in Beds that fits for an Alice Webb nor a burial 1790-1811, so if this is the wrong Alice I don't know what happened to her.
But first you need to check the parish register to see if Robert and Elizabeth Webb were of Leagrave.
BB
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Could only find basic marriage details. :(
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I think Chelle knows about this marriage and I wondered if she'd checked the marriage entry in Redbourn parish register.
BB
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Leagrave was a hamlet of Luton. On the IGI there's a baptism in Luton on 26 Sep 1790 of Aice (sic) Webb daughter of Robert and Elizabeth. I'd be looking at this to see if there's any more detail. Robert and Elizabeth also baptised two sons in Luton. Was their abode Leagrave?
Looked at Luton PR transcript early today. While the baptism of Alice Webb on 26 Sep 1790 does not state an abode of the parents; the other baptisms of sons of Robert & Elizabeth Webb := William on 29 Jul 1787 & Thomas on 10 Mar 1793 do state Leagrave as the abode.
Robert Webb married Elizabeth Keecher on 10 Oct 1786 in Luton parish but this does not state any specific abode. However the burial of Elizabeth, wife of Robert Webb on 30 Aug 1793 says he was of Leagrave. There is also a burial of un-named child, son of Robert Webb of Leagrave on 10 May 1799.
There is also a marriage on 11 Nov 1794 of Robert Webb to Jane Cooper but it don't say any abode nor suggest he is a widower. Nor is there any baptisms of children of Robert & Jane Webb.
Cheers John
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Im currently looking for Alice Webb b 1786 in Leagrave Bedfordshire , by 1841 shes married to John Skinner and living in Hertfordshire . Ive no idea who her parents are , Ive looked on familysearch but had no luck . This lady has been my quest for years
Have you only got her on 1841, or is she still around on later censuses? If only 1841, then places of birth are not given - so what is the source of the idea she is born in Leagrove, Beds?
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1841, 1851, 1861 censuses living in Church End Redbourne, is Alice Skinner
1841 with husband John Skinner, says she's born in county (Herts)
However in 1851 & 1861 she's a widow, both saying she's born Leagrave, Beds
1841 living with her is daughter Mary 8, in 1851 with her is Mary 19 & in 1861 Alice is visiting married daughter Mary age 29
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Nice one John! As the burial of the unnamed child in 1799 was a son of Robert, that leaves the way clear for Aice or Alice baptised in 1790 to be the Alice who married in Redbourn in 1811. Not cast iron, and probably unproveable, but it looks good
BB
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Assume the un-named child to be Thomas.....
..... as I've found a William Webb born 1787 Luton, Beds, widower, with son Joseph age 23 & grand-daughter Alice age 10 months, also living in Redbourne Herts on 1851 census.
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Hello Guys
Sorry ive not been here , caught up with work etc .... Your comments have been fantastic
This lady Alice has been a real pain and living so far away from Beds RO its awkward for me , I have Alice on all census records last seeing her in 1861 with daughter and son in law William Dollimore in St Albans then she disappears from there ,
SO all i have on this lady is her marriage to John Skinner , then all the census records , nothing on the start or end of her life :(
I am so grateful that you all took the time to look at this lady for me
Thankyou
Chelle
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The one detail that hasn't been found, which might help confirm our suspicions, is the witnesses at Alice's marriage to John Skinner. Have you seen the marriage entry?
BB
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No BB . Only who she married ... I spent some time yesterday looking on familysearch for the family and really didnt get to far
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You could contact Hertfordshire Archives & pay them £10 for detail from the marriage register.
The marriage at Redbourn on 22 Feb 1811 appears on the Herts Names Online database
https://beta.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies/research-local-history/local-history-research.aspx
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Could a visit to RO by someone do the same ?
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Could a visit to RO by someone do the same ?
Website says ... Items can be viewed for free in person at Hertfordshire Archives and Local Studies.
If you cannot get there yourself (it might cost more than £10 to do so) suggest you post look up request on the Hertfordshire page.
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Thankyou John appreciate your help
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Just reading back over this thread, and the import of John's post #10 had escaped me. If, as we suspect, Alice and William of Leagrave were siblings, then both married in Redbourn and lived thereafter in Redbourn. More circumstantial evidence! Sorry I was a bit slow picking that up! William married in 1809 and Alice in 1811. Wouldn't surprise me if we find that William was one of the witnesses at Alice's marriage.
I'd also check the witnesses at William's 1809 marriage to Rhodia Freeman to see if Alice was a witness.
BB
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Yes BB your quite right , when I'm at my laptop next I'll post on the Herts page to see if anyone is kind enough to go to the RO for me because the earliest I can get there in middle of next month .
Thankyou
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Just reading back over this thread, and the import of John's post #10 had escaped me. If, as we suspect, Alice and William of Leagrave were siblings, then both married in Redbourn and lived thereafter in Redbourn. More circumstantial evidence! Sorry I was a bit slow picking that up! William married in 1809 and Alice in 1811. Wouldn't surprise me if we find that William was one of the witnesses at Alice's marriage.
I'd also check the witnesses at William's 1809 marriage to Rhodia Freeman to see if Alice was a witness.
BB
Hi BB , Just thought id have a look at this again before going off to work , Can I ask where you found the marriage for William Webb as I have spent the last half hour looking ? And also been unable to find them on 1841 census , yes possible they both could of died etc
I could quite happierly sit here all day but needs must , work beckons
Chelle
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Find My Past has marriage in 1809 at Redbourn of William Webb to Rhodiah Freeman; while the Herts Names Online database has him as William WEEB marrying Rhoda Freeman on 12 Oct 1809. I've also found the marriage on Ancestry.
1841 census has William Webb aged 70 (=1771) living in Redbourn Common with Joseph Webb age 13 & Eliza Starkins age 20 & Mary Starkins aged 1. Seems Joseph Starkins married Eliza Webb on 29 Sep 1838 at Redbourn.
Rhoda Webb was buried at Redbourn aged 38 on 20 Feb 1829
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Blimey Starkins , I came across that name when i very first started to research my family , I felt I was going down a wrong line at the time and deleted my very small tree and just kept away from that name , though it was connected with Rance not Webb .
John its been very kind of you to look this up for me ,
" Joseph Webb age 13 & Eliza Starkins age 20 & Mary Starkins aged 1. Seems Joseph Starkins married Eliza Webb on 29 Sep 1838 at Redbourn. "
So Eliza Webb is daughter to William Webb 1771 ?? Nice that it falls in registration period ,
Im just going to go off and see if i can follow your trail ,
thankyou again so much
Chelle