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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: Stephen K on Wednesday 05 October 16 19:01 BST (UK)
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I have obtained a marriage certificate for 1870. The wedding took place in the parish of Urney which I believe is in Cavan Town "according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the United Church of England and Ireland" What church is this now known by?
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Urney Parish Church- https://www.ireland.anglican.org/find-a-church/parish/13720/urney
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Just for reference: In Ireland and throughout the British Empire and Dominions dioceses and churches were established (by British bishops). Over time these became independent from the Church of England, although they retained links.
http://www.anglicancommunion.org/identity/about.aspx gives a brief historical overview.
Regards
Philip
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Thanks for the replies. I did know the Anglican church was The Church of England in England and the Church of Ireland in Ireland but had never heard the term United Church of England and Ireland before and thought it might have been an independent protestant church.
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But it doesn't say "the United Church of England and Ireland" :-\
It says "according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the United Church of England and Ireland"
Which means that, although the Church of England and the Church of Ireland were separate entities, they used a common form of rites and ceremonies.
And the same Common Prayer Book.
The marriage would have been in a Church of Ireland church.
Other Anglican Churches (e.g. Church in Scotland, Church in Wales, etc) use ceremonies that differ slightly.
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It was "The United Church of England and Ireland" until Disestablishment!
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The Act of Union of 1800 united the parliaments of England and Ireland, and the church became part of the United Church of England and Ireland. Discontent with the established church and its privileged position increased, because the church drew its tithes largely from Roman Catholic tenant farmers. In the 1830s agitation against this practice became known as the tithe war. The census of 1861 showed that less than one-eighth of the population belonged to the established church, and four-fifths were Roman Catholic.
This fact led to the passing of the Irish Church Act of Disestablishment in 1869, which became law on Jan. 1, 1871.
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It's also explained here-
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Church-of-Ireland
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Discontent with the established church and its privileged position increased, because the church drew its tithes largely from Roman Catholic tenant farmers. In the 1830s agitation against this practice became known as the tithe war.
This is often overlooked when people talk of the Great Famine and the tyranny of Protestant landowners - the Protestant church was also oppressive! (Sorry, - I'm wandering off topic, but I think it is interesting).
Philip
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Discontent with the established church and its privileged position increased, because the church drew its tithes largely from Roman Catholic tenant farmers. In the 1830s agitation against this practice became known as the tithe war.
This is often overlooked when people talk of the Great Famine and the tyranny of Protestant landowners - the Protestant church was also oppressive! (Sorry, - I'm wandering off topic, but I think it is interesting).
Philip
I think you'll find that The Church of Ireland was also very glad to see The Church of England getting out too!
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This is often overlooked when people talk of the Great Famine and the tyranny of Protestant landowners - the Protestant church was also oppressive! (Sorry, - I'm wandering off topic, but I think it is interesting).
Philip
Not quite accurate. The Church of Ireland was Protestant but equally oppressive at times to all other religions, Protestant and Catholic- Presbyterian, Methodist, Congregationalist, etc.
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This is often overlooked when people talk of the Great Famine and the tyranny of Protestant landowners - the Protestant church was also oppressive! (Sorry, - I'm wandering off topic, but I think it is interesting).
Philip
Not quite accurate. The Church of Ireland was Protestant but equally oppressive at times to all other religions, Protestant and Catholic- Presbyterian, Methodist, Congregationalist, etc.
Indeed but surpressed under the Act of Union....
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The Church of Ireland, being the 'state' or 'official' church, had the upper hand in many local matters.