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Title: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Friday 07 October 16 21:30 BST (UK)
When I started my tree a million years ago I never bothered to get my grandmother's birth cert as she told me all the details of her birth and her parents and sisters, so I never questioned what she told me. She passed away two years ago with her papers going to my aunt who passed away last year and then they traveled to my uncle who today passed them to me as the keeper of the records. In the pile was a Deed Poll petition filled out by my grandmother in 1939 in it she stated that she wanted to abandon all ties to her mother's name as she had been raised from the age of six weeks by the people she saw as her parents.
All I have to go on is the details in the Deed Poll and her original birth cert which was attached to it. My grandmother was born Olive Chapman on 11 November 1921 to Isabella Champman of 74 Elm Street, south Moor, U.D. She was born at 1 Newbiggin Road, Lanchester, which I now know was the workhouse.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 07 October 16 22:07 BST (UK)
What is it you want to find out - who Isabella was?

There's an Isabella born 1895 Bearpark Durham.  Her parents were Edward and Jane.

1901 they are living 22 Thompson St Bearpark

Edward Chapman 47
Jane 40
Ralph 21
Mary Elizabeth 14
John Welles Chapman 17 (could be Willis)
Isabella 6
Fred 6
Richard Trasdale Chapman 1 month (could be Teasdale)
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Friday 07 October 16 22:20 BST (UK)
Yes, who Isabella was. I don't know if there any electoral registers for 1921 Durham that could help point towards the right parents as I have the Elm Street address. I don't want to go tripping down the wrong rabbit hole while trying to find Isabella.

I don't know Durham, so am a bit clueless when it comes to what is in the area.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 07 October 16 22:25 BST (UK)
I don't know Durham either I'm afraid but the lady above is just one possibility.

Am sure someone will know if Thompson Street or Lime Street perhaps is close to Elm.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 07 October 16 23:51 BST (UK)
I looked at Electoral Registers for 1921

South Moor Ward , Polling District of Stanley, Parliamentary County of Durham Consett Division

74 Elm Street has an Edward Chapman, Jane Chapman and Frederick Walton Chapman

Boo
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 08 October 16 00:08 BST (UK)
Meant to say also , that was the Autumn Register of Electors so would tie in with the time of the birth

Boo
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: barryd on Saturday 08 October 16 05:12 BST (UK)
A telephone solicitor work me up. I played dumb and never said a word and she finally hung up. Could not find the telephone off button in the dark. Decided to get up and check RootsChat. My grandparents lived in Old South Moor in a house they built. So it would be a new house in Old South Moor.

A Walking Tour of South Moor. .

Starting at the north end at Ox Hill on high ground walk down Park Street, South Moor on the right  hand side. Do not cross the road at the bottom of the hill as that will take you to the Middles (known as Bloemfontein by old timers like myself) and then into Craghead. Staying on the right at bottom of the hill will bring you to Poplar Street, Elm Street, Maple Street and Lime Street. Then the Park, and the Church then up to Old South Moor and finally ending at Quaking Houses. Done it many times but always on the left hand side as that side had the shops and cinema. The Church is St. George, CofE. Records on this link.

http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/Pages/AdvancedSearchChurchRegistersDetail.aspx?SearchType=PlaceParam&SearchID=454b03d3-e5a1-4790-91c1-464528aae22b&ItemID=597906


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Moor
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 08 October 16 09:20 BST (UK)
Looking good for being the right Isabella  :D
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Saturday 08 October 16 10:53 BST (UK)
Thank you! This is wonderful. Now I can start piecing together the life of this great grandmother I never knew I had.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 08 October 16 12:16 BST (UK)
1891 census  RG12/4099/89/7

Has this family, again in Thompson Street as they were in 1901, but Edward's wife is down as Jane "Ann" (born c1855) and there is an Isabella aged 1 month (who is too young to be 'your' Isabella)

Possibilities

Family Search

Isabella (No1) who was 1 month on 1891 census
baptism 1891    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSYR-JHW
burial    1894    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NR6V-ZYC

Isabella (no2) - likely to be 'your' Isabella
baptism 1895    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J31Q-WH8

Jane Ann (1st wife) 
burial     1898   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NR6K-S4W

Free BMD
Marriage 1  Q2 1873 Stockton 10a 199
Edward Chapman and Jane Ann Richardson

Marriage 2 (maybe!) Q1 1899 Newcastle T. 10b 158
Edward Chapman and Jane Black

Boo
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Saturday 08 October 16 17:20 BST (UK)
This is brilliant :D Thank you so very much.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Saturday 08 October 16 18:55 BST (UK)
I think I found her on the National School Register for Aycliffe National School with the following details:


Isabella Chapman born 19 Jan 1895 father Edward Chapman Thompson St 29 May 1901 removed from school

On the same page there was also:

Frederick Walton (not Chapman!) born 13 Feb 1895 father Edward Chapman 23 Thompson St 29 May 1901 removed from the school.

Curiouser and  Curiouser.
Title: Re: Isabella Chapman, Elm Street, South Moor
Post by: Shaztoni on Saturday 29 December 18 12:05 GMT (UK)
An update on this. I decided to go the DNA route and luckily one of Isabella Chapman's other granddaughters decided to do it too. It turned out that my grandmother's niece used to catch the bus from the bottom of my grandmother's road every day for years! Isabella had other children that she had kept. Her children knew about my grandmother but nothing more than her first name so had no way of finding her.
It is a small world.