RootsChat.Com
Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: wendythomas on Wednesday 12 October 16 11:18 BST (UK)
-
I'm looking for information about my great grandfather's brother who went to work in America when he was quite young,his name was John Griffith born in 1862 at Hendy,Sarn Mellteyrn,Caernarvonshire,North Wales,his parents were John and Laura Griffith,he died in 1934.He came back to Wales in about 1910 I think,he is living with his mother in Wales in the1911census,he married and had five children after he came back to Wales.There were rumours that he had children in America,that's what I would like to find out and what was his occupation and where he lived.
-
Hi was father John a Shoemaker as the son John in 1911 looks to be single with his widowed mother Laura aged 76 ( That is if I have correct John/Laura in two census) ;D
Keyboard86
-
;D Or the John 81 Farmer Laura 64 b Pwllheli and a William 32 Residing at Hendy W, Meyllteyrn in 1901
Census ref RG13/5266/89/7
Keyboard86
-
Hi again, the 1911 John looks to be born something like Meyllteyrn? In 1901 is a John Griffith 38 Single occ Farmer b Meyllteyrn ( transcribed as Matteryn) Residing at Cwmistiruchaf, Tudweiliog, Pwllheli?
Census ref RG13/5267/37/8
But suspect that more than one John Griffith was born c 1862 in Meyllteyrn?!
Keyboard86
-
Hi,I had never heard that his father was a shoemaker,he farmed here at Hendy Mellteyrn,the family have lived here since 1860.The John you have in your third post is not correct.I would like to find out about him while he was in America,he must have lived there for quite a few years he went out when he was quite young probably to New York looking for work.
-
;D Or the John 81 Farmer Laura 64 b Pwllheli and a William 32 Residing at Hendy W, Meyllteyrn in 1901
Census ref RG13/5266/89/7
Keyboard86
So was he a member of this family?
Where have you John b c 1862 and Laura in 1911?
-
Yes he was John and Laura's son,his brother William was my great grandfather.
-
In 1911 John lived with his mother at Trefaes Newydd, Mellteyrn,he married shortly after this and had five children.
-
Yes he was John and Laura's son,his brother William was my great grandfather.
OK but the John b c 1862 occ Farmer with a Laura in 1911 I located is Single?
Keyboard86
-
Yes he was single in 1911,I think he married about 1914.
-
Yes he was single in 1911,I think he married about 1914.
:) OK where did the information come from he had children in the US?
Keyboard86
-
His grandchildren think a family member had once said he had children there.
-
His grandchildren think a family member had once said he had children there.
One stage at a time, who did he marry to have Grandchildren?
Keyboard86
-
He married Jane not sure of her surname before she married,John was thirty two years older than her.
-
He married Jane not sure of her surname before she married,John was thirty two years older than her.
So what was her maiden name on the births of the children, who produced the said Grandchildren?
Keyboard86
Amended, a John Griffith married a Jane Roberts March qtr 1916 Pwllheli 11b 845?
-
Yes I remember now she was Roberts.
-
;D OK but at present we only have rumours he went to America/and whilst there had children who apparently did not arrive back with him, he is Single 1911, even possibly the one in 1901, so any records of him in the US will be hard to prove?
Keyboard86
-
We know he lived in America for many years,his younger brother Evan Griffith went there also and stayed there and married and had children he never came back to Wales.
-
We know he lived in America for many years,his younger brother Evan Griffith went there also and stayed there and married and had children he never came back to Wales.
OK will go with that, when did Evan emigrate who did he marry, did he visit John, when was he born to save me looking up family from 1861 etc
Keyboard86
-
Will look the information up for you tomorrow.
-
Hi again, so John b 1862 is not on 1881 census with family, but family include an Evan b c 1872 on RG11/5599/98/7
Keyboard86
-
Hi,that's his brother Evan.I have a post on Roots Chat from July 2014 about Evan and his family in New York,under Hugh Lloyd Jones,Rome,Utica ,New York if you could have a look on that.