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Title: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Nova67 on Sunday 16 October 16 01:20 BST (UK)
Looking at the 1851 Wales Census for Margaret Lane born about 1831 and living with husband David Lane in Full Moon, Upper Machen, Monmouthshire.

Ancestry has the family as David "Jane" and "Margrete Jane".

David is from Clutton, Somersetshire, but I cannot decipher the town in Monmouthshire his wife is from?

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Thank you.
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: ancestorsnoop on Sunday 16 October 16 01:54 BST (UK)
I was wondering if the place could be Llanbradach, but according to the StandardFinder on
Family Search Llanbradach is in Glamorganshire.
https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceDetail.jsp?placeId=3484017
According to Google maps Llanbradach is near Machen.

Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Nova67 on Sunday 16 October 16 02:01 BST (UK)
I was just thinking the first bit must be Llan....
Thanks, but which Llan.....?
Her maiden name was Jenkins and she is in Bassaleg in 1841.
I am looking at Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Villages_in_Monmouthshire
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Nova67 on Sunday 16 October 16 02:35 BST (UK)
Quote from: ancestorsnoop on Sunday 16 October 16 01:54 BST (UK)
I was wondering if the place could be Llanbradach, but according to the StandardFinder on
Family Search Llanbradach is in Glamorganshire.
https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceDetail.jsp?placeId=3484017
According to Google maps Llanbradach is near Machen.

So are you saying the county has changed?
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Nova67 on Sunday 16 October 16 02:42 BST (UK)
Or maybe just recorded in wrong county? Should have been Glamorgan. Near the border of both counties:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Eglwysilan/Llanbradach/
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: ancestorsnoop on Sunday 16 October 16 03:13 BST (UK)
It looks like "Llanbrach," but when I plugged that into Google, Google suggested "Llanbradach."
Unfortunately I am not familiar with the area to be any help.
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 16 October 16 03:22 BST (UK)
Quote from: ancestorsnoop on Sunday 16 October 16 03:13 BST (UK)
It looks like "Llanbrach," but  Google suggested "Llanbradach."

Just like Scotland with Gaelic place names, I would say the variation is between English & Welsh language?

Annie
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Pejic on Sunday 16 October 16 05:58 BST (UK)
Llanfrech? There is a Llanfrechfa in Usk, Monmouthshire
Title: Re: What is this place name in Monmouthshire, please?
Post by: Nova67 on Sunday 16 October 16 06:22 BST (UK)
Thank you all for input.
Llanfrechfa sounds like a good suggestion based on the image. The long letter that goes below the line could definitely be an "f".
It does say "Y" born in county on the 1841 Census when Margaret Jenkins is living in Basseleg, Monmouthshire as a servant.
The 1851 Wales Census is the only way of establishing a likely birthplace as she died in 1854.
Trying to find a baptism c. 1831. No father listed on marriage certificate. The space is blank.