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Title: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 23 October 16 00:13 BST (UK)
Hi I'm learning how to download pics aAND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT AGE YOU THINK THIS WOMAN IS

from a phot in newpaper 1907

then compare it with a photo of my nan to see if there is any fam ressemblence
bear with me while i work out how to do an attachment please

Brigid
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 23 October 16 18:01 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Sarah


I don't know how to change thej peg number will try another way

I have a better photo of my Nana too

Step by step I.m learning to use my tablet but it's different skills to the computer

I love old photos so am looking forward to being able to use it

Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: sarah on Monday 24 October 16 10:14 BST (UK)
You did it Brigid - yeay :D :D :D :D

Sarah
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 24 October 16 13:03 BST (UK)
Well done getting the pic upladed. It can be very difficult to start with  :)

I'd say that she was 25-32 -ish

Gadget
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 24 October 16 13:10 BST (UK)
Thanks sarah ...without a mouse or double click either . i shared it from a FB pic !

I can change my avatar too to another maisie pic but really need a big one

Boiler repair man this am also a history buff though she looks like ME from nose down

+ Gadget

News reports says younger but to be ours she has to be 6 years older than her lover
I think she relented _ gave her real name or was identified but kept womens perogative to lie about her age ...isnt there an Oscar Wilde quote

we all want to look older when teens +  5years younger after 25   men included ..?

Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Spidermonkey on Monday 24 October 16 13:15 BST (UK)
Before reading your other thread, I looked at this one and thought that the woman was in her early 30s - certainly not 20/21!
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 25 October 16 01:23 BST (UK)
Thanks spiderminkey that's becoming a condensed next we have to see if any family resemblance . tomorrow s assignment is to get photos from gallery or fb on this thread

I won't attempt Sarah's clear instructions

Alternative method

1 .Go  to costa's
2.request help from nearest person using a smart phone or tablet
3.pat attention learn but let them take control
4 drink soya decaf latte
5 thank random helpful stranger give them a sticker
6Connect

  works wonders

Is it just Leicester people or does   charm . Helplessness L aughter and esp work world wide
Starting "excuse me you look like a clever person ....helps ..."
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 25 October 16 04:17 BST (UK)
My opinion;

Lady on left looks to have the same shape nose as lady in newspaper pic

Girl on right may have same hair parting (going by shape of hairline of lady from newspaper pic)

None seem to have same hair (lady in newspaper's hair looks curly)

Annie
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: phenolphthalein on Tuesday 25 October 16 06:15 BST (UK)
No expert None have same eyes or hair to my mind nor shape of face

Could try photocopy or trace one or other at same scale as other onto overhead projection transparency and then overlay and look for differences -- primitive, tricky but similar to old police technique
Someone will pipe up and tell you newer face recognition technology hopefully

phenolphthalein
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Handypandy on Tuesday 25 October 16 08:07 BST (UK)
Had a play with the newspaper pic....
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 25 October 16 09:26 BST (UK)
First let me explain ..the woman would be her daughter at the same age not the same woman

I didnt say which of the pictured women ..because i didnt want to unduly influenc

did anyone spot a family resemblance between the 2 men ?

One is my grandad .I always thought he had a look of stan laurel About him 

Last but certainly not least That photo is lovely ..softens her ..I dont think she was a criminal and her crime certainly didnt deserve 6 months hard labour

so i feel like you have vindicated her + wether she is her grandmother or not my aunt thinks she's a heroine who helped poor single mothers and childless couples all ove England and deserves a medal

I have a photo of my aunt at 17 who does have some similar traits can I post that or does it break the rules ??

...she said "ooh she looks a bit like me on a good day"
she's in her 80's now
as is    her cousin who said the lady looked vaguely familiar  and loved her auntie maisie
Charlottes daughter

 .....I wonder how long Charlotte lived  ?

whatever became of Charlotte Roberts ?? there is a topic on the Cheshire board about her .

 I'd love to frame a  nice photo instead of the news mug shot

  give  to Mum  and Aunt S to put next to the Photo we managed to obtain of their Mum's Birth father  George jacob Fellman (from latvia photo from registation card and another from hospital records which we didnt enlarge + frame
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 26 October 16 00:29 BST (UK)
For those who like to know more maisie is the fur coat lady I think aged 23-25 courting or shortly after wedding

I will attempt to put pic of her Jewish Russian father on here when my eyes have recovered from thurs intense computer day

Thanks for In put guys ....so Agnes is no blood  relation ...wife of brother Artur Jones
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Wednesday 26 October 16 18:12 BST (UK)
Spent ages messing with the image of the newspaper cutting and settled with the result below, to show a woman looking in her early 20's
(here comes the tech bit; heavily vignetted and all sorts of pic' processing to try and remove the print showing through on the opposite page of the paper)
Jewish Russian father 'on the left' Child in the middle (my Grandma, right Cuz ;)) Approx Age of this woman please 'on the right'

Original document from
 Records office
Birth day (woman on the right!)

21 April 1881
27 greenfield street
Birkenhead
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Wednesday 26 October 16 18:30 BST (UK)
Had a play with the newspaper pic....
Must say that looks awful ;D
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 26 October 16 23:23 BST (UK)
Well done Ben
Cuz

Thank goodness for your help .

Don't do yourself down I .ve been trying to for days .

I was going to put another pic of Nana Maisie

Tomorrow maybe a friend will come and be my eyes



The birth cert for. Charlotte .did you 21/08 /1981


Did you post that on other page ?


Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Wednesday 26 October 16 23:26 BST (UK)
Did you post that on other page ?

No! only what is above
Reply #12
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Saturday 29 October 16 13:37 BST (UK)
Well done Ben
Cuz

Thank goodness for your help .

Don't do yourself down I .ve been trying to for days .

I was going to put another pic of Nana Maisie

Tomorrow maybe a friend will come and be my eyes



The birth cert for. Charlotte .did you 21/08 /1981


Did you post that on other page ?


Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Saturday 29 October 16 13:41 BST (UK)
Duplicate post  ???
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 29 October 16 13:48 BST (UK)
I'm a bit confused by this thread, but I would just like to say that I think the two women in the most recent post, have similar facial characteristics - and similar hair, neck, shoulders, eye spacing ...
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Saturday 29 October 16 15:39 BST (UK)
The child in the middle of previous pic with the 3, taken @ younger age.
Makes this more confusing IMO as it's not a good picture.
Plus having a Cuz who is digitally illiterate and prefers to use the landline ::), is hard going
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: heywood on Saturday 29 October 16 16:37 BST (UK)
Confusing again!

When you refer to the 'child in the middle', do you mean the old lady in the picture in reply #12.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Saturday 29 October 16 16:38 BST (UK)
yes

my Cuz Brigid is telling me to do this and that (only following orders here!)
I am fed up with messing with images.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 29 October 16 22:50 BST (UK)
I think it's too difficult to compare the last two.   :-\

Although the photo is poor, I can see that the young girl on the left would have grown into the older woman in the middle of the last series of photos.

I think the mouth of the person in these photos may be wider and lips fuller than the woman in the original newspaper image, but she may have been pursing her lips, and if you are only looking for a family resemblance, there is not going to be a perfect match anyway.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Saturday 29 October 16 22:59 BST (UK)
The image (of the woman on the right) is from a folder on my computer containing a lot of the same image with different amounts of manipulation applied (sorry, looks like it may be 1 of these). I settled for the 1 that looks most attractive - at least to me anyways!! creepy.
Not sure, what Brigid my cuz want's exactly ( apart from some computer help)?
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Saturday 29 October 16 23:27 BST (UK)
Had a play with the newspaper pic....
Must say that looks awful ;D

That's very rude. I'm sure HandyPandy wasn't expecting that response to his/her restoration work.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: bnjmn on Saturday 29 October 16 23:32 BST (UK)
I didn't mean to be rude.
I meant to say it was too over done.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Handypandy on Sunday 30 October 16 08:41 GMT (UK)
I'm no artist, that much is clear  ;D

If anyone likes some of my pics on here and benefits by them, that's nice. If they don't, that's ok too. I do these pics purely for my own amusement.
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 01 November 16 05:18 GMT (UK)
handy pandy ...as i told you i loved the pic

it is soft and also have told ben off for his wording ...(he is not used to social contact so comes across as rude and I hadnt realised that \\\\\\i'd put pressure on him and he felt he had to do it all immediately

\i am recoveting from bad reaction to eyedrops

so should not really belooking at screens for another day

black glasses and eye rest

I will get another geek top write axplanation and add the other photos

IS there a way to ask admin to remove that rude comment

When I read it I thought ben was referrring to his own attempt and later at young maisie in bathers
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: Handypandy on Tuesday 01 November 16 06:38 GMT (UK)
brigidmac...stop worrying...I wasn't in the slightest bit offended and I don't want you at loggerheads with Ben over it. I wouldn't support the idea of removing the post. He is entitled to his honest opinion and I respect and defend his right to express it.  :)
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Thursday 27 April 17 02:42 BST (UK)
Handy Andy i really love your picture and wanted to ask you if i can copy it and put it in a frame for my mother's birthday ...It's looking more and more like this is the right Lottie Roberts ...And maybe DNA will throw up connections with her other children    mums cousins

Ps yes the old lady in the middle of the 3 pics and the lady in bathing suit is the child of George Jacob Fellman aged  40 on his alien registration photo and Maisie Jones aged about 26 with her husband and in the bathing costume

They met when they were 24 and i think he got the Brownie box  camera soon after
Title: Re: Approx Age of this woman please
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 06 January 21 21:34 GMT (UK)
Although I haven't proved or disproved this lady as being our great grandmother
And her legitimate grandson doesn't have a photo of her
I'm going to use handy s softened version of the "horrid" newspaper photo
My aunt who resembled her has since passed away so I can add her photo .