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Title: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 28 October 16 16:26 BST (UK)
Peter Smyth and wife Mary Anne (nee McGartland) were living in Quadrant Street, Belfast during the 1911 census. I knew nothing of the Smyths until this week when I found that Peter had married a McGartland who appears in my wider family tree. I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the Smyths. Peter and his father came originally from Co. Armagh according to 1911 census entries.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: JJen on Friday 28 October 16 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi,

You say that Peter and his father came from Co. Armagh but was what Peter's father's name and what details do you have for him?

JJ
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 October 16 17:17 BST (UK)
Peter Smyth and wife Mary Anne (nee McGartland) were living in Quadrant Street, Belfast during the 1911 census. I knew nothing of the Smyths until this week when I found that Peter had married a McGartland who appears in my wider family tree. I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the Smyths. Peter and his father came originally from Co. Armagh according to 1911 census entries.

Can you post the link to Census so people can view it?
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: JJen on Friday 28 October 16 17:23 BST (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Smithfield/Quadrant_Street/186789/
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 October 16 17:29 BST (UK)
20 yrs married....
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: gaffy on Friday 28 October 16 17:30 BST (UK)
Marriage of Peter Smyth and Annie McGartland:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10676/5890894.pdf

Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 October 16 17:32 BST (UK)
Now that there is some information....

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/d6798c7604185
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 October 16 17:35 BST (UK)
cert
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 28 October 16 18:45 BST (UK)
So much has been posted since I left this morning, and this is all appreciated. The Patrick Devine who witnessed the marriage was married to Annies sister Ellen. Their father Patrick was my great-grandfathers Edwards brother. He was also a butcher.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 28 October 16 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi,

You say that Peter and his father came from Co. Armagh but was what Peter's father's name and what details do you have for him?

JJ

also Peter.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 October 16 18:58 BST (UK)
Hi,

You say that Peter and his father came from Co. Armagh but was what Peter's father's name and what details do you have for him?

JJ

also Peter.

People have found that out already due to having to go looking for the Census... you seem to know a lot but post nothing of what you already know!
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 28 October 16 19:15 BST (UK)
Hallmark, I'm sorry but I posted the first item and had to go out. I wasn't expecting the response I got and was surprised when I returned.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Friday 19 March 21 23:39 GMT (UK)
Hi re Tony McGartland and Smyth family from Quadrant road. Iv just started my family tree. Peter and Annie are my great grandparents. Maybe we could share some information?
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 11:04 GMT (UK)
Hi re Tony McGartland and Smyth family from Quadrant road. Iv just started my family tree. Peter and Annie are my great grandparents. Maybe we could share some information?

Hi J Wakley, nice to hear from you. I have three generations of Smyth recorded on my tree. Do you want me to post here or private message you?

Tony
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 20 March 21 11:08 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Do you want me to post here or private message you?

J Wakley will need to make at least one more post before being able to receive or send PM's.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi thank you very much that would be amazing yes!
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 11:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony sorry I am new to this whatever is easier im fine with you posting on here. Thank you!
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 14:43 GMT (UK)
Thats no problem, which of the Smyth lineage are you related to? The most recent Smyths I have are:

Peter
Patrick
Francis
James
John
Mary Anne
Helena

Births range from 1892 - 1908 however I have Peter b. 1818 also
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony Patrick Smyth is my grandad.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 16:01 GMT (UK)
I have attached a file generated by Family Tree software,

Tony
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 16:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony thank you. That is amazing! Where are u in the family lineage x
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 20 March 21 16:44 GMT (UK)
I have attached a file generated by Family Tree software,

Tony

Two children born in 1906........must be a mistake  :D
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 16:56 GMT (UK)
🙂 . i think i def need a few tips on all of this. wud have taken me forever to get it. infact family members have tried before and not not that far. so thank you!
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 17:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony do you know if there are any photo's of the family anywhere? Did you get your information from the Parish records? Its very impressive x
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 17:23 GMT (UK)
I have attached a file generated by Family Tree software,

Tony

Two children born in 1906........must be a mistake  :D

Maybe, Mary Anne was called Margaret
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 17:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony do you know if there are any photo's of the family anywhere? Did you get your information from the Parish records? Its very impressive x

I'm sorry, I don't know of any. Who did your grandfather marry?
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 17:32 GMT (UK)
So my grandad married an Agnes Mackateer. We think she was adopted but we dont know for sure. That will be my next quest but i guess that will be a realy hard one. Anyway they had a  Lilly, William, Eileen and John. All very lovely people all gone now and sadly missed. Fantastic people x
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 17:54 GMT (UK)
Interestingly, your grandfather was born in John Street, Omagh. I live about 5mins from John Street though now its mainly solicitors offices and some 'takeaways', nobody lives on the street any longer. Did the Smyth move to England because they seemed to disappear from Irish records.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 18:03 GMT (UK)
Yes they moved to England for work reasons realy i think. my grandmother was a Maguire at the time of the marriage as she was a widow. Where are you in the family tree? We should meet up for a drink next time we visit Ireland pandemic allowing of course. x
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 19:30 GMT (UK)
Peter Smith married Mary Ann McGartland. Her father Patrick, was my great grandfathers brother Edward.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 19:34 GMT (UK)
thanks again Tony for your help it realy is appreciated
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 20:21 GMT (UK)
You're welcome, glad that a connection is made. To complete the Smyth connection are you ok to give me the following?

1. Patrick's wifes name and dob
2. Your father and mothers name
3. Your husband/wifes name

This gives me a present day link from Peter Smyth. You can send by message if you wish but it you prefer not, it's ok.
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 20:52 GMT (UK)
yes of course ! no problem. how do i private message you?
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: J Wakley on Saturday 20 March 21 20:58 GMT (UK)
also Tony my mom always told me my great grandad Smyth was a blacksmith do u know anything of that
Title: Re: Smyth Family, Quadrant Street, Belfast
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Saturday 20 March 21 22:18 GMT (UK)
yes of course ! no problem. how do i private message you?

I sent you a message