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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: Paul Peter on Sunday 30 October 16 20:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi reached a road block on my great great grandparents. Patrick Whelan and Anastasia Hufsham married in Abbeyside in 1846. Patrick was from a seafaring family as was Anastasia. They had 4 children, Katherine, Mary, Bridget and Patrick. They were grandparents of Captain Tom Donoghue of Kerlogue fame, my grandmothers older brother. I can't find any details of Patrick and Anastasia's family but I think Anastasia's father may have been Dutch and called Moses. Anyone else come across these names ? Paul
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http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1087
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The church marriage record unfortunately does not show their parents' names but does show Patrick as PHELAN
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632087#page/156/mode/1up
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Hi reached a road block on my great great grandparents. Patrick Whelan and Anastasia Hufsham married in Abbeyside in 1846. Patrick was from a seafaring family as was Anastasia. They had 4 children, Katherine, Mary, Bridget and Patrick. They were grandparents of Captain Tom Donoghue of Kerlogue fame, my grandmothers older brother. I can't find any details of Patrick and Anastasia's family but I think Anastasia's father may have been Dutch and called Moses. Anyone else come across these names ? Paul
Hi Paul, www.historicgraves.ie has a Burial in St Augustins Graveyard Friars Walk Abbeyside Dungarvan for a JOHN HUFSHAM b. 1762 D. 24th July 1809 age 47yrs. Grave No WA-STAU-033. www.nationalarchives.ie for Griffiths Valuation records showing a Patrick Whelan in Humble St or Quarry Lane Abbeyside Dungarvan with house & small garden paying a rent of £1 in 1851. Also 1901 Census House 6 O Connell St Dungarvan shows a Patrick Whelan age 43 (b circa 1858) a widower with children residing - a possibility son of Patrick & Anastasia
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marriage and birth...
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http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632087#page/67/mode/1up
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Death of Anastatia Whelan Abbeyside Dungarvan Waterford 15th July 1893. Age 77 Widow of Sailor. Present at death Bridget Drummy (daughter)
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Bridget WHELAN m James DRUMMEY Feb 13 1881
Civil Record Dungarvan 1881 Q1 V4 P479
Residents of a house 7 in Shears Street (Dungarvan No. 2, Waterford) - LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Dungarvan_No__2/Shears_Street/1771266/)
Four of the children in 1911 Residents of a house 6 in Shears Street (Dungarvan No. 2 Urban, Waterford) - LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003477196/)
Bridget DRUMMEY d Jun 05 1906 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05559/4560404.pdf)
James and Bridget had at least 9 children the 7 listed in 1901 plus Margaret 1887 and Mary 1891
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Shipping and Seamen records might be useful for this family 1860 - 1921
Whelan Dungarvan throws up a good few results.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/home.jsp
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In view of the alternatives Hufsham/Hussum, I wonder if the f is not an f at all, but a long s?
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See reply 3 - Burial of John Hufsham (spelt with F)
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Katherine Whelan seems to have married John Donohue
1901 Census 13 Sarsfields St Dungarvan No 2
John a 49 Sailor - Kate 42 - John 11- Bridget 2
1911 Census. 14 Sarsfields St Dungarvan No 2.
Catherine a 54 Widow - John 21 Carpenter - Bridget 13 Scholar
Married 34 years 7 children born 6 living.
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See reply 3 - Burial of John Hufsham (spelt with F)
"www.historicgraves.ie has a Burial in St Augustins Graveyard Friars Walk Abbeyside Dungarvan for a JOHN HUFSHAM b. 1762 D. 24th July 1809 age 47yrs. Grave No WA-STAU-033..."
http://historicgraves.com/graveyard/st-augustine-s/wa-stau has an image of what is being talked about!
It has been transcribed by someone as Hufsham but that doesn't mean they are correct... similarly they trnscribed O'Neil incorrectly too!!
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Looking at the picture above, the "f" letter in the name does not resemble the f in "life" in the following line. If I had only seen the picture, I would probably have gone for Hulsham. It would be easy to see how Hulsham could become Hussum.
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Captain Tom Donoghue
http://www.mariner.ie/history-3/articles/ships/kerlogue
The Kerlogue was repaired in cork following her attach and Captain Thomas Donohue took command. It was under his experience captaincy that the Kerlogue made her greatest rescue. He also commaned the Laby Belle when bombed and the Irish Oak when torpedded.
In the write up Donoghue is spelt Donohue.
also this sight might be able to help you.
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You could try the Dungarvan Observer
www.dungarvanobserver.ie
they covered the laying of a reef to Honour Captain Donohue in 2013
it looks like this is a big thing Dungarvan
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thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. This has really helped to get me started again
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The old S and F looked very similar, the F had a stroke that went each side and the S only to left... as in this example