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Title: ARGENT Essex
Post by: kdg on Tuesday 08 November 16 15:46 GMT (UK)

I am trying to find information on Charles (John Charles) ARGENT. According to his military records, he was born in Bumstead Essex in 1795. He served in the 9th Foot Regiment from 1813 until 1836, when he retired in Mauritius, living there until his death. I have not been able to find any reference to this person in parish records as regards his birth/baptism date, parents etc. He married Victoire DUSSARD, possibly in the West Indies, where his regiment was stationed for just over 7 years. However, I have come across a marriage between a John Charles ARGENT & Victoire DUSAUX(?) recorded in Chilcomb Hampshire on 31/1/1819. Charles ARGENT's regiment was in Winchester around that date & Winchester is only 3 miles from Chilcomb. The names seem very similar & spelling errors are not unusual in parish records. I should appreciate any information on this person or ARGENT's living in the Bumstead region of Essex

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Skater8 on Monday 21 June 21 15:47 BST (UK)

HI,
He is my ancestor, I was wondering if you got any further? He had children with Victorine in Trinidad.

Regards,

John

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Br1gau on Monday 21 June 21 17:14 BST (UK)

Hi Skater8,

kdg's post dates back a few years so don't know if he was able to get any further.  Do you have the following?

John Charles Argent bpt 28 Oct 1792 at Steeple Bumpstead.  Parents: William and Elizabeth Argent

Charles Argent bpt 8 July 1796 at Saffron Walden.  Parents George & Amey Argent

Further children of William & Elizabeth Argent bpt at Steeple Bumpstead:
Ann Argent bpt 4 Oct 1787
George Argent bpt 13 Nov 1785

brigau

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: ColC on Monday 21 June 21 17:32 BST (UK)

John Charles ARGENT   Baptism 28 Oct 1792   Essex Steeple Bumpstead : St Mary the Virgin :
Parish Register

The record already posted is on freereg there is no place just called Bumstead, there is
 Helions Bumpstead but no Argents in the period.

Colin

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: ColC on Monday 21 June 21 17:42 BST (UK)

Three other children on freereg at Steeple Bumpstead for William & Elizabeth 1785 – 1789, John Charles was the youngest in 1792. No marriage there for William but some elsewhere in the County.

Colin

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Skater8 on Wednesday 23 June 21 17:31 BST (UK)

Thanks all,
Charles Argent joined the regiment underaged (17 - allegedly) in 1812 and I don't think he got paid until he was of age, so I guess it is unlikely he was the person baptised in 1792 as that person would be of age and would not need to soldier for free! I think it more likely Charles is the Saffron Walden Argent.
I believe 'Bumstead' was an alternative for 'Bumpstead' at the time.

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 June 21 17:57 BST (UK)

Quote from: Br1gau on Monday 21 June 21 17:14 BST (UK)

Charles Argent bpt 8 July 1796 at Saffron Walden.  Parents George & Amey Argent

Quote from: Skater8 on Wednesday 23 June 21 17:31 BST (UK)

Charles Argent joined the regiment underaged (17 - allegedly) in 1812 and I don't think he got paid until he was of age, so I guess it is unlikely he was the person baptised in 1792 as that person would be of age and would not need to soldier for free!

I think it more likely Charles is the Saffron Walden Argent.

This could be Charles Argent born Saffron Walden on 1851/1841 c

Civil Parish:   Stoke Newington Piece:   1503 Folio:   104 Page Number:   17

Charles Argent age 58 Saffron Walden, Essex , Gardener
Mary Ann Argent   wife 60
Mary Ann Argent   dau 18

1841 P:   669 Folio:   28 Page 11
Charles Argent   45 gardener
Mary Argent   45
Mary Argent   10

Looks as if they had a daughter named Emma

Marriage    9 May 1839    St Bride Fleet Street, City of London

Emma Argent f/a Father:    Charles Argent, gardener
Spouse:    Henry Sears

Charles died 1876

The Will of Charles Argent, gardener of 82 Albion Road Stoke  Newington died 9 Nov 1876
Probate    23 Mar 1877 dau Mary Ardent, spinster & John Hansford, grocer the executors

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Skater8 on Wednesday 23 June 21 18:36 BST (UK)

I guess the Saffron Charles is not mine either  :(

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 June 21 20:20 BST (UK)

Quote from: Skater8 on Wednesday 23 June 21 17:31 BST (UK)

Charles Argent joined the regiment underaged (17 - allegedly) in 1812 and I don't think he got paid until he was of age

Have you been able to look at this record to see if it helps
sorry I don’t have access to view the full details

Private Charles Argent
Enlistment Age:   17
Discharge Age:   39
Birth Place:   Bumstead, Essex, England
Enlistment Year: 1812
Discharge Year:   1834
Regiment:   Ninth Regiment of Foot
Regimental Number:   45
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
Original image can be viewed at fold3

Title: Re: ARGENT Essex
Post by: Skater8 on Wednesday 23 June 21 22:26 BST (UK)

Thanks - thats him, just cant find any other uk records