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Title: thomas watson wigtownshire
Post by: jinxyjess on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Looking for info on thomas watson who was a beadle in kirkcolm in wigtownshire in the 1850s and 1860s. Have no record of parents for him though I think he was born in Ireland. Also I have his wife recorded as Mary Ann Ferguson but not sure of this.
His daughter was Mary Watson who married a Francis McKendry; the McKendrys are proving to be quite elusive although it appears a lot of them spent time in the poorhouse.
Any info would be appreciated
Thanks
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hello & welcome
Do you know when Thomas & Mary Ann married ?
Also do you have the family on the census ?
Thomas Watson is a common name & we need to know we have the right one so the more info the better.
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:47 GMT (UK)
Is this the marriage - Thomas Watson - Marriage Date:   22 Nov 1812  - Kirkcolm,Wigtown,Scotland
Spouse Mary Ferguson

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:48 GMT (UK)
Knockcoid Kirkcoln Wigtownshire 1861

Thomas Watson   69 born Ireland. transcribed as Beudler
Margaret Watson   37
Jean Watson   18

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:50 GMT (UK)
Mayhar Kirkcolm Wigtownshire  1851

Thomas Watson   60 Born Ireland. Church Beadle.
Margret Watson   58
Margret Watson   26 Robert Watson   24
Thomas Watson   18 Euphemia Watson   14
Agnes Watson   2 Jean Watson   7

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:50 GMT (UK)
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Is this the marriage - Thomas Watson - Marriage Date:   22 Nov 1812  - Kirkcolm,Wigtown,Scotland
Spouse Mary Ferguson

You just beat me to it Sandra.
Several children from 1817-34.
Mother Mary Fergus(s)on.
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:52 GMT (UK)
Previous thread on McKendry/McKendrie Kirkcolm - March 2011 - probably not enough info to help you though.

Francis died in 1870 in Kirkcolm and Mary in 1887 in Ayrshire

Francis McKendry -  aged 66 years - 1871 - 887/ 1 Kirkcolm

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=518543.0

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:56 GMT (UK)
Anc tree shows - Mary Watson 1814–1887
born 25 March 1814 -  Kirkcolm Wigtownshire, Scotland passed away  24 April 1887 - Kilmarnock  Ayrshire Scotland.

Mary Watson married Franci McKendry - 20 January 1835 - Leswalt,Wigtown,Scotland.

Mary McKendry  is with son Robert in 1881 - 4 Boyd Street Kilmarnock Ayrshire

Robert McKendry 37 Born 1844. House joiner.
Mary McKendry   70 Mother. Born 1811.
Andrew Bonar   19 Boarder.

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 16:59 GMT (UK)
1861 Kirkcolm Wigtonshire  - transcribed as McKnidry  ;)

Francis McKnidry    aged 52 Born Gibralter. Ag Labourer.
Mary McKnidry   aged 48
Margaret McKnidrym aged 12 - Jane McKnidry aged 10 - Frances McKnidry aged 8 Agnes McKnidry aged   4

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 08 November 16 17:10 GMT (UK)
Mary Watson Bapt: 25 March 1814

David Watson birth:16 March 1817
bapt: 20 March 1817 PORTPATRICK

Sarah Watson Bapt: 12 September 1819

Maria Watson Bapt: 3 August 1821

Margaret Watson Bapt: 27 July 1823

Robert Watson Bapt: 12 August 1825

Ann Watson Bapt: 15 May 1828

Grace Watson Bapt: 6 February 1830

Thomas Watson Bapt: 30 June 1832

John Watson bapt: 26 February 1834

Euphemia Watson Bapt: 15 May 1836
All Kirkholm except for David.
Parents: Thomas Watson & Mary Ferguson.



 

 








Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: jinxyjess on Tuesday 08 November 16 17:52 GMT (UK)
thanks for all the response guys! It is the correct marriage date and I have the cencus records, but I dont have a death date for Thomas Watson or if he is buried in Kirkcolm. Also what did a beadle do in those days?
Been trying for a long time to find poorhouse records for McKendrys but so far only have one from 1881.
Thanks again
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 08 November 16 18:03 GMT (UK)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beadle

http://www.lifeandwork.org/features/features/view/140-a-beadle-s-tale

Cas
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 08 November 16 21:39 GMT (UK)
Scotlands people shows 111 deaths of Thomas Watson between 1861 and 1871

1862 Kirkcolm looks the lost likely - 887/13 - no age given at that time.

WATSON - THOMAS - 1862 - 887/ 13 - Kirkcolm

1867  Kirkcolm 887/14 but 87 years old so the date of birh 1796 wouldn't fit.

WATSON THOMAS - 84 - 1867 - 887/ 14 - Kirkcolm

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 09 November 16 11:23 GMT (UK)
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 shows that Jessie McKendry married James Caven at Kirkcolm on 5 November 1869.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY72-DXR

1881 Clachan Cot House  Kirkcolm Wigtownshire

James Cavin   40 Ag Lab.
Jessie Cavin   35
Margaret Cavin   10 Francis Cavin   8 John Cavin   6 James Cavin   4
Thomas Cavin   3 Jessie Cavin   1 Anthony Cavin   1 Month.

1891 Kirkcolm Wigtownshire

James Cavan   51 Jessie Cavan   46
James Cavan   14 Thomas Cavan   13 Anthany Cavan   9 Robert Cavan   7
William Cavan   5 Peter Cavan   4 Jessie Cavan   11 Annie Mary   2

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 09 November 16 11:29 GMT (UK)
1901 Mahaar Kirkcolm Wigtownshire - Jessie is on her own - could James have passed away betweeen 1891 and 1901  ???

Jessie Cavin   54
John Cavin           26 Ploughman
Thomas Cavin   22 Ploughman
Jessie Cavin   21
Willam Cavin   15
Peter Cavin    14

Sandra

Added - There is a death Kirkcolm for a James Cavin which fits.

James Cavin - aged 54 years - 1898 - 887/20 - Kirkcolm




Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 11:23 GMT (UK)
There is a headstone on anc for Francis Mckendry 25 December 1870. Mary Watson 24 April 1887. Granddaughter Annie Cavin aged 7 years died 15 October 1894 and James Cavin 15 October 1898 aged 60 years,

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 13:47 GMT (UK)
According to anc tree - Agnes Mckendry - 1856–1937 born  22 May 1856 - Kirkcolm, Wigtownshire, Scotland passed away 30 January 1937 - Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 14:44 GMT (UK)
1881 shows Agnes aged 24 years - in the poor house - formerly housemaid servant domestic - registration dist Stranraer - Civil Parish - Inch - Wigtownshire.

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 14:47 GMT (UK)
1891 Inner Blair Farm (House) Stonykirk Wigtonshire.

John Ewing    39 years. Farmer.
Jeanie Ewing 29 years
Andrew Ewing   Under 1 Month
Agnes McKendrie 33 years. born kirkcolm Wigtownshire. Servant (Domestic)
Maggie Hastie   30 years
Thomas Henderson   16 years
Maggie McWhirter   47 years

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 14:49 GMT (UK)
Could this be Agnes as the wife of George Anderson  ???- Sandmill Cot House Stoneykirk Wigtownshire.  Would need marriage certificate to prove.

George Anderson 66 Born Stoneycroft. Crofter.
Agnes Anderson   46 Born Kirkcolm Wigtownshire.

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 15:01 GMT (UK)
Perhaps this thread would benefit from a move to Wigtownshire.  Hopefully someone may be able to find the burial of Thomas Watson at Kirkcolm  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 10 November 16 15:19 GMT (UK)
Anc tree gives a marriage for Agnes 3 Feb 1899 Inch Wigtownshire to George Anderson -

There is a death at Stoneykirk which might be George Anderson  ???

George Anderson -  aged 78 years -  - 1909 -  898/ 25 -  Stoneykirk

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 11 November 16 17:12 GMT (UK)
Perhaps this thread would benefit from a move to Wigtownshire.  Hopefully someone may be able to find the burial of Thomas Watson at Kirkcolm  ???

Sandra

Probably need the experts in Scotland to help with the burial for Thomas Watson

Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson wigtownshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 13 November 16 12:04 GMT (UK)
Rootschatter Suzilad had a friend who did a look up in the  MI's booklet for Kirkcolm and neither Thomas Watson or his wife are listed - so may be there is no marker.  You could try the Burial Records Office at Blackparks Industrial Estate  Stranraer -  you would need the exact date of death.

Thanks Suzilad, that was very generous of you
Regards
Sandra  ;)
Title: Re: thomas watson wigtownshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 13 November 16 12:29 GMT (UK)
Just noticed that the OP has been on line today but failed to acknowledge the work done so far- do hope they come back soon to recognise our efforts.


Sandra
Title: Re: thomas watson wigtownshire
Post by: suzilad on Sunday 13 November 16 12:40 GMT (UK)

Thank you Sandra for that nice to be able to help someone when I can as I have been very lucky with all the advice I've had from "Rooters" .

jinxyjess if you do  contact the records office  in Stranraer  you will definitely need Thomas's date of death as the records are not on line . They have to look through big books so you can imagine this is very time consuming .Sandra has given you one that looks promising and it you will be able to get the information right away from Scotlands People.
I know from experience as I have been in the offices but as I knew date of death and cemetery it didn't take them long.