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Title: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:09 GMT (UK)
Hi I was wondering if someone could kindly see if there was an obituary for the above in Romford libary.  All I know is she died June 1923 and is buried in twickenham cemetery after dying in the Brentford area.
I have been in contact with various libraries and it seems Romford papers are the best bet.
Thanking you in advance.
I live in Wales otherwise I would visit libary myself.  Thanks
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:14 GMT (UK)
Why Romford?

Neither Twickenham or Brentford are near Romford.   Romford is east of London, Brentford and Twickenham are west !

Death
June 1923
Brentford
3a 116
Margaret Hodson age 73
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:32 GMT (UK)
Sorry richmond
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:39 GMT (UK)
Do you have the exact date of her death/burial


Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:41 GMT (UK)
No sorry.  I looked on ancestry deaths and it states June 1923 thank you
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 November 16 16:45 GMT (UK)
The record on Ancestry probably means June qtr ie April/May/June

I can't see her burial here  :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01itx/

ADDED Link to Richmond Local Studies
   
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ity/
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:00 GMT (UK)
I thought you said she was buried in Twickenham cemetery in first post.  That isn't Richmond.
What is the source of that burial? Does that not give you a date of burial?

Brentford is the Registration District in which she died.  Twickenham is within that Registration District. Richmond isn't!

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/brentford.html
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:05 GMT (UK)
Yes she is buried in twickenham .  No other details known only that she is buried with her daughter and son in law.  I wrote to Brentford library but they advised that the obituary could be in the Richmond and twickenham times or Richmond times.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:06 GMT (UK)
Sorry Richmond herald
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:10 GMT (UK)
Have you tried emailing Richmond local studies
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ity/

What were the names of her daughter & son in law
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:12 GMT (UK)
Yes I have asked if they do look ups but no reply.  Daughter Margaret Ann Pooley.  Son in law William pooley
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:29 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I can't see the Pooleys in Twickenham cemetery either.  :-\  Could it have been a local churchyard.

For someone to do a newspaper lookup you really need a clearer date than June qtr for the death. Not many papers of that era are on line so anyone looking for you would probably have to browse the papers for the possible obituary.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:32 GMT (UK)
Also - usually there only obituaries for people of some note. Did she hold any important position locally? 
Or do you just mean an announcement in the Birth, marriages and deaths column?  Will that tell you anything you do not know? What are you hoping to find out?
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:34 GMT (UK)
Entered as Hodgson at Twickenham

http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(kjtzs3am3yqkqhux40aywjmj))/DeceasedDetails.aspx?t=dec&id=290944
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:36 GMT (UK)
What are you trying to establish from the obituary?
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:38 GMT (UK)
If there were any of her siblings still living at the time of her death.  Thanks
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:39 GMT (UK)
Well found Dawn!!!  I was hunting away and only got as far as the Margaret E Pooley in her 20's,  that I then didn't pursue as it was a Margaret Ann we were looking for .... I should have looked closer at her!!!!
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:39 GMT (UK)
If there were any of her siblings still living at the time of her death.  Thanks

Have you got names and years of birth for the siblings?
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:42 GMT (UK)
Entered as Hodgson

http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(kjtzs3am3yqkqhux40aywjmj))/DeceasedDetails.aspx?t=dec&id=290944

Thank you Dawn, I must be having a bad day  ;D  I wasn't getting any result for Pooley either. At least now there is a date for a newspaper look up  ;D
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:42 GMT (UK)
Unless she was a person of some social standing, it is unlikely an obituary would include the siblings. Most obituaries are an acknowledgement of a date of death and date for the funeral. If names are included they are usually the husband and children.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 09 November 16 17:49 GMT (UK)
I've just phoned Richmond Local Studies.

They are suggesting the Richmond & Twickenham Times which they have on microfilm.

I can't get there easily or in the short term but I might get a chance to order up the newspaper at the British Library and take a look either next week or the week after.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 18:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 09 November 16 18:45 GMT (UK)
Some of the obituaries I have found locally give quite an explicit account of obituaries ie mourners, senders of wreaths, etc.
Margaret's two sons both died with injuries due to ww1 so possibly she may have a tidy obituary
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 09 November 16 18:57 GMT (UK)
Did she have many siblings?  Can we not just trace each through censuses, BMD indexes, wills etc to see if any were still alive? 
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 10 November 16 09:43 GMT (UK)
Morning.  I know who her siblings were but two of them totally disappear after the 1871 census so I thought if I had a copy of her obituary and they were mentioned I know they were still in touch and living.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 10 November 16 10:54 GMT (UK)
Are you willing to post the names of the siblings?

If people disappear from the usual bmd & census sources, they may have emigrated.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 10 November 16 14:23 GMT (UK)
Or married/remarried/mistranscribed etc etc.  More eyes looking may have success in finding what happened to them!
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 10 November 16 16:31 GMT (UK)
Hi yes Margaret's family lived in Christ college llanfaes Brecon.  On the 1871 census William Lewis and sister Susannah now Williams were at the property. After that census I can't find either.  Susannahs hubby was named William Williams.  No mention of him either.  Dad John resided there as well.
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 10 November 16 16:42 GMT (UK)
For those looking
RG10/5579 f70 p3
John Lewis 66 Shoemaker
William Lewis 26 Shoemaker (c1845)
Susan Williams 34 Dress maker (c1837)
All born Brecon
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 10 November 16 16:55 GMT (UK)
That's my family.  Thank you all
Title: Re: Margaret hodson
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 10 November 16 18:05 GMT (UK)
Just to get a wide picture of the family

1861
Christ college,Brecon
John Lewis 56 shoemaker
Johanna 49
Susan 25
Lewis 20
William 17
John 14
Margaret 11