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Title: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 16 November 16 15:58 GMT (UK)

On a wedding parish record the name of my ggggrandfathers father was Rees John Evan.
My ggggrandad was Thomas Jones.  I don't know whether the surname was left out of Rees name or if his surname was Evan.
Thomas Jones was born approx. 1813 Llywel Breconshire.
I can't find record for his dad.
Could someone possibly help.  Thank you

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 16 November 16 16:00 GMT (UK)

Where and when was the marriage that you refer to

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Wednesday 16 November 16 16:03 GMT (UK)

Thomas Jones married catharine Powell.
January 1838. Breconshire.
Llywel church.
Thanks

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: MarMnkly on Thursday 17 November 16 20:06 GMT (UK)

Hi Llangatwg
There is baptism for Thomas, son of Rees John Evan, labourer in Cwmwysk (I think) by his wife Elinor on October 11th 1811 in Llywel

There are other baptisms in Llywel to the same people:
An earlier Thomas, May 2nd 1802
Margaret, Feb 17th 1805
Mary, Nov 1st 1807

Mar

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 17 November 16 20:13 GMT (UK)

Oh thankyou so much  I will have a look on FindMyPast now.  Many thanks

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 17 November 16 20:23 GMT (UK)

I had a look on parish records FindMyPast and can't find this entry prob my eye sight.
 Do you the dad Rees surname is Jones.
Could you tell me where you found this please.
Thanks very much

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: MarMnkly on Thursday 17 November 16 20:24 GMT (UK)

I searched just by the parents first names in the Powys baptisms for Llywel
 :)
I didn't put in a surname
Mar

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Thursday 17 November 16 20:27 GMT (UK)

Thanks I will try again

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Friday 18 November 16 15:45 GMT (UK)

Thank you for your help.  I would never had found this family.  Thank you

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: MarMnkly on Friday 18 November 16 20:37 GMT (UK)

You are welcome Llangatwg  ;D
Thinking a bit more, the transcription of the parish records assumes that each of the children adopt Rees John Evan's surname as their surname, i.e. Evan.

I am not too familiar with the patronymic naming system, but would have thought that if this was followed then their last name would have been Rees, so stuck as to where Jones came from?

Have you found the marriages of other children, or the deaths of either Rees John Evan or his wife Elinor

Mar

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: llangatwg on Friday 18 November 16 21:40 GMT (UK)

Hiya I haven't as yet to be honest.
Maybe someone can correct me but I am sure at some stage in history  a child took the surname of its mother.  Is this right anyone

Title: Re: Rees John Evan (Jones)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 19 November 16 07:50 GMT (UK)

I have no knowledge of the child taking the mothers surname, the nearest to this happening in my OH's tree is some of the women had the mothers maiden name as a middle name.

Maybe the mother remarried and they took the new husbands name.