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Title: 1939 Register
Post by: Glenda46 on Wednesday 23 November 16 19:28 GMT (UK)
I don't want to subscribe to this for a look up of only 2 "lost people" so wondering if anyone would be willing to look for me. William might be shown with just one name, but suspect he would be living with his daughter however here are full names.

William Crawford Bryce LAING born 1867 last known in 1910 in the Westminster district of London, but he died in Hove in 1948, ALSO his daughter Dorothy Audrey LAING born 1900 who was last known with her father in the Westminster District in London in 1910, has been found in Hove in one Electoral Roll and she died there (unmarried) in 1988.

Anyone give me a hint on how to search Electoral Rolls for London areas from here in Australia.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 23 November 16 19:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Glenda

I'm sorry but 1939 look-up requests cannot be done on Rootschat.

If you don't have an account, it's quite easy to manipulate the data and get results from the free searches especially if you have full dates of birth rather than just the quarters and years.

The london electoral registers are available on Ancestry but you'll need a full sub to see the details.

You can search on the names or enter the street address without numbers in the keyword box.

The data has been compiled by OCR technology so can be hit and miss.

Who or what address are you looking for?



Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Glenda46 on Thursday 24 November 16 06:21 GMT (UK)
I don't know an address I just know he died in Hove aged 81 so in 1939 would have bee about 71. His daughter died in Hove too I suspect they lived together until his death. Unfortunately there is only so many paid sites one can afford and i just thought someone who had a sub could be kind enough to try with the information I supplied. I am trying to complete this tree he is the stumbling block. I tried to get his death Cert the other day but the GRO said there was no record but I got full details of folie etc from FREE BMD. ho hum!
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: Glenda46 on Thursday 24 November 16 06:23 GMT (UK)
Oh the full names and last know information is in my request. Think I checked somewhere on Ancestry at the library and found him in Westminster about ??? have to try find the handwritten information. Glenda
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 24 November 16 07:19 GMT (UK)
Have you searched the free 1939 Index for the rest of the family?

Just putting this out to help anyone searching:
1901 Census
Camberwell, London

Laing, William C B  Head  M  32  Shipping Clerk  b Scotland
Laing, Annie A  Wife  F  26  b London
Laing, Isabella A  Daughter  F  3  b London
Laing, Dorothy A  Daughter  F  1  b London
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 24 November 16 07:52 GMT (UK)
I did a search using Dorothy's date of birth (4 Mar 1900 +/- 5yrs) from the death index but there were no entries.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 24 November 16 08:38 GMT (UK)
ALSO his daughter Dorothy Audrey LAING born 1900 who was last known with her father in the Westminster District in London in 1910, has been found in Hove in one Electoral Roll and she died there (unmarried) in 1988.


What year was this and what was the address

ADDED
Do you have dater of birth for either of them
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 24 November 16 09:40 GMT (UK)
Dorothy's DOB is 4th March 1900 Rosie  ;D

Dorothy Audrey Laing DOB   4 Mar 1900
Age at Death 88  Registered Nov 1988
Hove in   Sussex
Volume   18  Page   1072

OOps sorry Dawn, I was answering Rosie's post and didn't see that you already knew Dorothy's DOB.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 24 November 16 09:46 GMT (UK)
From the free indexes there is a William Laing coming up in Hove.

Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dcbnwh on Thursday 24 November 16 10:31 GMT (UK)
There are records of a William and Dorothy living in the same street in Hove but William has a different Wife. Did he marry again? - E.G. William Laing and Rose Pearson in 1912?

David
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 24 November 16 10:37 GMT (UK)
Dorothy's DOB is 4th March 1900 Rosie  ;D

Dorothy Audrey Laing DOB   4 Mar 1900
Age at Death 88  Registered Nov 1988
Hove in   Sussex
Volume   18  Page   1072

OOps sorry Dawn, I was answering Rosie's post and didn't see that you already knew Dorothy's DOB.

Thanks Carol, I had not noticed it on Dawns post either,  Sorry Dawn.
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dcbnwh on Thursday 24 November 16 11:45 GMT (UK)
The William Laing in the same street as Dorothy in Hove is the same age as her father but not the same person.

He married Rosa Emma Millard in Lambeth in 1906 and is probably the person on the death index in 1948.

Rosa died there in 1965.

David
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 24 November 16 13:12 GMT (UK)
May I remind people that only 1939 information found from free searches may be posted here which are names and years of birth. Careful manipulation of the data can reveal other household members but not the relationships.

And we have covered some of this before


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=644360
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=653840
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=688470
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=748984
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 24 November 16 13:21 GMT (UK)
If William & Dorothy moved back to Scotland, then they won't be in the 1939 National Register?
I don't think the Scotland 1939 has been released yet?
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 24 November 16 13:28 GMT (UK)
Answering my own question about Williams date of birth (from familysearch)

Scotland Births and Baptisms

William Crawford Bryce Laing
Birth Date    29 June 1867
Birthplace    Inveresk with Musselburgh, Midlothian
Father   Walter Laing
Mother   Christina Bryce


Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 24 November 16 13:52 GMT (UK)
Birth not mentioned?
March 1899 Lambeth 1d 356
Laing, Edith Marie
mother's maiden surname - Clapton
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 24 November 16 13:53 GMT (UK)
Whilst the 1939 register as it stands at the moment contains 41 million names of which just under 33 million are available, it is a one date snap shot, 29th September.

This register was primarily used to issue identity cards on the outbreak of war in 1939.

It did not include those who had already signed up, those who lived outside of England & Wales and potentially those away on holiday as it was taken during September.
Anyone who was born after that date, or who arrived in the country after that date was listed in a separate register which is not publically available.

If they weren't registered to start with, they certainly would be by January 1940 when rationing started.

If the date on the death entry is consistent with the date on her birth cert and baptism entry, then you can do a 1939 search just on that information and look throught the 2272 results to see if she is potentially mis-transcribed.

I'm having trouble locating the school entry you mention, which dataset are you referring to and what address is actually given on the register
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: polarbear on Thursday 24 November 16 15:43 GMT (UK)
I accidently keyed May (05) instead of Mar (03) into the free 1939 index and turned up a Dorothy ? La?Ng b. 1900 and living in Hove. You would need to look at the original image to see what the ?s represent. I'm not sure if the index would show all members of the household but this Dorothy shows as the only one in the household if it does. The index does not give an address.

PB
Title: Re: 1939 Register
Post by: dcbnwh on Thursday 24 November 16 15:58 GMT (UK)
Moderator comment: reply removed. Please do not breach the 1939 terms and conditions. See Dawnsh's reply #12