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Title: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 28 November 16 09:15 GMT (UK)
Hi
Hope someone can help please as I am looking for Kimberley Terrace, Spital, Chesterfield which is the address of the groom on a marriage certificate in 1912.  I cannot find Kimberley Terrace so guess it was a named group of houses built at the same time, and the street name is actually missing.

If anyone can see the electoral register or census records for the parents of the groom ie Mr. Mrs. H. Strickland at this address, and can see a street name, or a nearby street name, that would be useful please.

Thanks in advance.
Val
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: kmart66 on Monday 28 November 16 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hi

After Kimberley Terrace  there is spital Lane and having a look around google it seems that Kimberley Terrace was on Spital Lane.

Kevin

Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 28 November 16 13:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much Kevin.  Do you think Kimberley Terrace was demolished or the name has fallen into disuse? 

Cheers
Val
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 28 November 16 13:48 GMT (UK)
I have also just found this postcard of Spital Lane from around that time, and I guess such a block of terraced houses would have had their own name?
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 28 November 16 13:49 GMT (UK)
Sorry I forgot the link:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brett/photos/arippon.html
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Tuesday 29 November 16 17:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help.
Val
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: AndyMed on Monday 15 June 20 15:10 BST (UK)
I appreciate that this thread is some years old, but I think I can help with Kimberley Terrace in Chesterfield.  Yes, it is on Spital Lane.  I had a great-grandfather who lived there, and struggled to find where it is, but I recall my Dad saying "on Spital Lane" once.  Just this afternoon (15th June), I've spoken to a chap who's lived there many years, and he confirms it ... there are in fact three separate rows of houses, the first called Ladysmith Terrace, the second Mafeking Terrace, and the thirs (and longest) Kimberley Terrace.  My ancestor was at no 4 Kimberley Terrace, so I assume the houses were simply numbered from 1 etc in each of the separate rows.  Now they're all numbered on Spital Lane numbering of course.   If you can manage to click on the following link, it's a Google street view of the 3 rows - Ladysmith to the left, Mafeking in the centre, and Kimberley to the right. Here's the link - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.228887,-1.4140353,3a,75y,11.06h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zEhT8UEXODM4bBOcqRl9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 15 June 20 18:06 BST (UK)
Thanks AndyMed.  I think I tried Google Streetview to see if any names were shown in the brickwork, which you sometimes see with old terraces.

It's nice to see the actual row of houses, so thanks for the info and the link.

My great aunt/uncle's parents lived at 18 Kimberley Terrace and the address is on the 1912 marriage cert. Perhaps my ancestors were neighbours of your ancestors?
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: AndyMed on Monday 15 June 20 18:26 BST (UK)
Hi Val - glad you picked up on my comments.  The chap I spoke to confirmed that indeed there aren't any plaques or name-plates on the buildings.   Just looked on wikipedia, and the Siege of Kimberley was in the second Boer War, which was 1899-1902.  Must have been built after that, then.   It was my great-grandad who lived at no 4.   Next time I'm passing, I'll see what number it is nowadays on Spital Lane - I assume they simply counted 1,2,3 etc from the end, when it was first built.  I'll put what that is on here, when I find it out.   Would be good to know "today's" address.  Great-grandad's name was Samuel Coe, born about 1847, so he wouldn't have been a young man at the time.  Moved to Chesterfield around 1890 or so from a village in Norfolk, lived elsewhere in Chesterfield for a few years before Kimberley Terrace.  Don't know when he died
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 15 June 20 18:39 BST (UK)
That'll be interesting to see the current numbering and how it relates to the original.  I take it you live in Chesterfield or in the area?  One of my Strickland ancestors was verger for Chesterfield church - the one with the twisted spire. 
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: Jool on Monday 15 June 20 19:28 BST (UK)
There is a newspaper article regarding the sale of the three terraces in Spital Lane in the Derbyshire Times and Chesterfield Herald 21 August 1920.

It appears they have been re-numbered by 1920.  The article mentions...
Nine six roomed dwelling houses known as Ladysmith Terrace numbers 16-32 (even)
Nine six roomed dwelling houses known as Mafeking Terrace numbers 34-50 (even)
Eighteen six roomed dwelling houses known as Kimberley Terrace numbers 52-86 (even)

Val, your ancestor would have lived at the current number 86 on the end of the terrace, previously number 18 Kimberley Terrace.

Andy, your great grandfather would have lived at the current number 58, previously number 4 Kimberley Terrace.
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: Jool on Monday 15 June 20 19:55 BST (UK)
Val, there is also a newspaper article in the Derbyshire Courier 15 February 1916.

The article has information and comments made by Private E. Strickland, son of Mr. and Mrs. H. Strickland of 86 Kimberley Terrace, Spital Road, Chesterfield.  Bonus - there is also a photo of him!

I cannot post it here as attachments aren't allowed on a Lookup Board, if you would like a copy send me your email address by PM and I will forward it to you.
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: AndyMed on Monday 15 June 20 20:05 BST (UK)
Looks like Jool has got better access to info than I have ... thanks, Jool, for the excellent info!   I'm sure that Val will be delighted to see the photo you mention.  And yes, Val, I do live in Chesterfield - about a mile or so out of the town centre, and Spital Lane is the road I walk along to get there.  Walked past Kimberley Terrace many times over the 15 years we've been here!
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 15 June 20 21:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Jool, and I will PM you.  I think Pvte E Strickland would be a relative's uncle, so he'd be interested in the newspaper article too.

If it's Ernest Harold (known as Harold/Harry) Strickland, he lost a leg due to a workplace injury in 1925.  There's more about this in his obit published in the Derbyshire Times, January 1959.  His wife was verger of the parish church, and Harry apparently used to climb the inside of the steeple, right to the top despite only having one leg.  Not sure why he had to climb the steeple - I'd have to check my notes.

Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 15 June 20 21:14 BST (UK)
I certainly didn't expect to have more info 4 years after posting my request - great work RootsChatters!  Thanks.  A few extra pieces to the puzzle, to flesh out the dusty documents.
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: johnnstuart27 on Monday 22 March 21 12:31 GMT (UK)
Ernest Harold was the uncle of my mother with whom she lived (along with Aunt Mabel) as a child in Church Walk. She recollects visiting her father who lived with her grandfather and mother in what is now Spital Lane 
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: johnnstuart27 on Monday 22 March 21 12:41 GMT (UK)
Rereading this, 'Harry' (Thomas Henry) 1887 -1968 would I think be my maternal grandfather, the brother of Harold and Jack and son of Mr & Mrs H Strickland of Spital Lane,
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 22 March 21 19:57 GMT (UK)
Johnnstuart27.  I think we may have been in touch already via Ancestry?  I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: johnnstuart27 on Monday 22 March 21 20:13 GMT (UK)
Not sure that we have ..... have trawled the ancestry site briefly .... but don’t think we have been in touch. Spoke with my mother tonight .... her grandparents def lived in Kimberly Tce. New user so need to navigate my way round this site to find the PM (private message)
Title: Re: Chesterfield address lookup please
Post by: ValJJJ on Monday 22 March 21 20:21 GMT (UK)
I have PM'd you - you should see an alert at the top of the page, I think, and perhaps an email alert too with a link.

You're right, we didn't connect via Ancestry.  All will become clear with my PM, I hope!