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Title: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Monday 28 November 16 17:30 GMT (UK)
1n 1909 Herbert Leslie Mumford married Emily Barber. In 1920 they lived in Granchester, nr Cambridge. Emily died 1922.

In 1924 Leslie H Mumford married Jessie G Brown in Cambridge.  They had a daughter Poppy, b 1926, and from 1929 they were living in Impington, nr Cambridge.
Herbert died Cambridge 13 Mar 1973 - age 88     

I'm trying to find Herbert's (or Leslie's) parents. Can anyone help.?
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Monday 28 November 16 17:34 GMT (UK)
Who does he name as his father on the two marriage certs?

(Are you sure they are the same people btw?)


Death info implies a birth around 1885 - have you looked for a birth, or looked for him on 1891/1901/1911 censuses?
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

There's a birth record of a Leslie Herbert Mumford -
q1 1885, Wandsworth
Vol 1d  Page 654
Mother's maiden name - Jermy

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Monday 28 November 16 17:38 GMT (UK)
Birth
Jan/Feb/MAr 1885
Wandsworth
ref 1d 654
Leslie Herbert Mumford

snap JJen!
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:39 GMT (UK)
1891 -

James Jeremy   64
Martha Jeremy   67
Harry Jeremy   32
William Mumford   Grandson 9 b.Harlow, Essex
Leslie Mumford   Grandson 6 b. Lambeth, London

RG12 Piece 1364 Folio 30 Page 7, Harlow, Essex

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Monday 28 November 16 17:41 GMT (UK)
He is with Jermy Grandparents in 1891

1891
Churchgate Street, Harlow Essex
James Jermy 64 shoemaker bn Castor Norfolk
Martha Jermy 67 wife bn Harlow
Harry Jermy 32 shoemaker bn Harlow
William Mumford 9 grandson bn Harlow
Leslie Mumford 6 grandson bn LAmbeth

OK - we are following each other here ......

He is still with them in 1901
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:47 GMT (UK)
There's a marriage in 1880, Shoreditch of Harriet Jermy and on the same page is Edward Mumford

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Monday 28 November 16 17:47 GMT (UK)
That was quick. Thank you both.
I just found in FreeBMD Edward Mumford married Harriet Jermy 1880 Shoreditch. Could that be them.?

Bob
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:49 GMT (UK)
Marriage record -

Harriet Jermy
Age - 21
Spouse - Edward Mumford, Ironmonger
Spouse Age - 21
15 Aug 1880, St Leonard, Shoreditch
Father Name - James Jermy, Cordwainer
Spouse Father - Daniel Mumford, Saddler
Wits - Henry Wilton and the mark of Mary Braithwaite

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Monday 28 November 16 17:52 GMT (UK)
1871
Harlow
James Jermy 43
Martha 45
Harry 12
Harriet 11


so looks like it was Martha that married Edward Mumford and they were Leslie/Herberts parents
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:58 GMT (UK)
This could be Harriet on the 1891 as a widow but with a son Francis (birth record shows MMN - Jermy)

Harriet Mumford   wid 31 b. Harlow, Essex
Francis Mumford   8 b.    Harlow, Essex

RG12 Piece 1364 Folio 11 Page 16, Harlow, Essex

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 17:59 GMT (UK)

so looks like it was Martha that married Edward Mumford and they were Leslie/Herberts parents

Harriet  :)  :)
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Monday 28 November 16 18:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you both ..... again.

All looks good.   
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: JJen on Monday 28 November 16 19:11 GMT (UK)
Just a bit of extra info  :)

Harriet remarries in 1891, Epping, to Arthur Brewster

JJ
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Monday 28 November 16 20:48 GMT (UK)

so looks like it was Martha that married Edward Mumford and they were Leslie/Herberts parents

Harriet  :)  :)

Yes - Harriet!!!!!   That's what I meant!
I typed that 1871 census up 4 times and each time just as I pressed "post" the internet blipped and I lost it. I nearly gave up ..... and obviously should have done !  I was nearly throwing the laptop out the window.
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 29 November 16 08:39 GMT (UK)
I was with you for a while, now I am completely lost. My understanding is that Edward Mumford married Emily Jermy in 1880.

Leslie Herbert Mumford was born q1 1885 - mothers name Jermy. I assumed Emily Jermy.

I am not clear were Martha fits in???

Bob
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 29 November 16 08:55 GMT (UK)
SORRY ... Edward married HARRIET. NOT Emily. Still not sure about Martha?
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 29 November 16 11:53 GMT (UK)
Edward Mumford married Harriet Jermy

I made an error when I said Martha in reply#9 (in the same way as you put Emily instead of Harriet, I went and put Martha!). JJen pointed it out in reply#11.

Martha is Harriett's mum on 1871.

This is the same Martha who is Leslie Mumford's Grandmother on the later censuses, thus confirming we are on the right track
Title: Re: Herbert Leslie Mumford
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 29 November 16 13:12 GMT (UK)
Now I understand, thank you.

Bob