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Title: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: ammma on Sunday 04 December 16 01:47 GMT (UK)
 :o JOHN ADAMSON was my great grandfather and although he was born (around 1852 and later buried in Kinross, he resided in Glasgow.  I believe it was Kinross (the town) but I am not entirely sure.  I am in Canada - a long way from Kinross.  So if a Rootschatter could find his beginning and end, I would be grateful. 
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 04 December 16 03:57 GMT (UK)
Hi ammma,

Can you please provide some more details such as parents, wife, children, dates etc.

What info. do you have to say he lived in Glasgow but was buried in Kinross?

What were his connections with Kinross (the reason for him to be buried there)?

Sorry for the questions but we need to tie ends to help  ;D

I actually live quite near there, a lovely place & quite historical!

Annie
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 04 December 16 04:33 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth;

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBV5-BBV

John Adamson

Born 17 Mar 1852

Christened 6 April 1852

Parents John & Jane (Couper)


Annie


Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 04 December 16 10:35 GMT (UK)
Annie ~ this thread might give some link info:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760579.0


Gadget
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: ecksdochter on Sunday 04 December 16 10:55 GMT (UK)
Hello ammma,
     I have Adamsons from Kinross-shire in my tree, but, unfortunately I don't see a John.
     I wonder if this could be him?
       1881. W Bothwell St, Anderston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.
     John Adamson  31 b Kinross, Kinross-shire. Corn Miller.
     Mary      "         29 b Campsie, Stirlingshire.
     Isabella  "           1 b Glasgow.
     David     "   1mon. b Glasgow.

       1891. Main St, Barony, Glasgow.
     John  Adamson *61 b Kinross. Corn Miller. *Think age 61 is a transcription error.
     Mary       "         38 b Campsie.
     Isabella   "         11 b Glasgow.
     David      "         10 b      "
     Margaret "           7 b      "
     Alice       "           3 b      "

       1901. Main St, Anderston, Glasgow.
     John Adamson  52 b Kinross. Corn Miller.
     Mary       "        49 b Campsie.
     Isabella   "        21 b Glasgow.
     Margaret "         17 b      "
     Alice       "         13 b      "

     Hope this is the right John. (Mary's maiden name might be Kelly)
               Regards,     Dod.
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 04 December 16 11:03 GMT (UK)
That looks like the correct family, Dod.  The thread that I linked to is about Mary Kelly born Campsie.


Gadget
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 04 December 16 13:04 GMT (UK)
Annie ~ this thread might give some link info:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760579.0

Thanks Gadget,

That's why extra known info. can help.

Annie
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 04 December 16 14:37 GMT (UK)
There is a death on Scotlands People for a John Adamson 1911 Hillhead Glasgow age 62 gives him a birth year of 1849 so possibility

This might be John Adamson in the 1851 census address Bogbumhouse  ;D Kinross
David Adamson age 49 born Cults Fife
Isabel Adamson age 47 born Strathmiglo Fife
Robert  Adamson age 15 born Stamiglo fife
Bill Adamson age 5 born Kinross
John Adamson age 3 born Kinross
Isabel Adamson age 10 born Strathmiglo Fife

1861 Census address WesterChance Inn Kinross
David Adamson age 60 born Cults Fife ( labourer )
Isabella Harder ( think this is transcription error should be Hardie ) age 58 born Fife
John Adamson age 13 born Kinross scholar

Marriage for David Adamson 17 June 1826 Falkland Fife
Spouse Isabell Hardie

Marriage certificate for John Adamson and Mary Kelly the only way to confirm parents
Rosie
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: ecksdochter on Sunday 04 December 16 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hello,
     I've found 2 John Adamsons born Kinross-shire about the right time scale.
     John No: 1.
       1841. Pardon hall, Strathmiglo, Fife.
     David Adamson  35 b Fife.
     Isabella    "        35 b   "
     David       "        12 b   "
     Alison       "         9 b   "
     Robert      "         7 b   "
     George      "         5 b  " 
     Isabella     "  9mons b  "
     
       1851. Bogbumhouse? Kinross.
     David Adamson  49 b Cults, Fife. Agricultural Labourer.
     Isobel       "        47 b Strathmiglo, Fife.
     Robert      "        18 b         "            "
     Bill           "          5 b Kinross-shire. (Transcribed as daughter)
     JOHN        "          3 b      "
     Isabel       "         10 b Strathmiglo, Fife.
       
       1861. Wester Chance Inn, Kinross.
     David Adamson  60 b Cults, Fife. Labourer.
     Isabella Harder   58 b Halkland? Fife. (Probably Falkland, Fife)
     JOHN ADAMSON 13 b Kinross, Kinross-shire.

          1871. (Possible) Windygates, Markinch, Fife.
     JOHN ADAMSON  22 b *Gaorin Bridge, Kinross. Distillery Miller. *Gairney Bridge?
          Boarding with Christopher Funkie & family.

     Coffee time. Next post John No: 2.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
I see this will cross with another post giving same information.
     
 
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: ecksdochter on Sunday 04 December 16 17:20 GMT (UK)
Hello,
     Marriage for John Adamson & Mary Kellie 1879 Anderston, Glasgow. Mary seems also to be registered under surname Tillie. (ScotlandsPeople)
     I'm quite familiar with farm names around Kinross but Bogbumhouse has me stumped! Can't find anything like it on National Library of Scotland (nls) Maps. Maybe the transcription is way out!

     John Adamson No: 2. I think this is the John Adamson in Reply 2 posted by Rosinish (Annie)
       1851. ES (East Side) Of Main St, Kinross.
     John Adamson  29 b Ceres, Fife. Tailor, Employing 6 Men.
     Jane        "       26 b Kinross.
     Helen      "         4 b Anstruther, Fife.
     Duncan    "         2 b Kinross.
     David       " 4mons b Kinross.

       1861. Main St, Kinross.
     John Adamson     41 b Ceres. Tailor & Clothier, 6 Men, 4 Boys.
     Jane M Couper Adamson 37 b Kinross.
     Helen Jackson Adamson  14 b Anstruther, Fife.
     Duncan Adamson  12 b Kinross.
     JOHN ADAMSON     9 b     "
     Ann          "              7 b     "
     James       "             5 b     "
     Thomas     "             3 b     "
     Wm.         "   10mons  b     "

       1871. High St, Kinross.
    *Jean Adamson   50 b Ceres. Tailor & Clothier. *Transcription Error for John.
     Jane M    "          47 b Kinross.
     JOHN ADAMSON 19 b Kinross. Pupil Teacher.
     Anna        "          17 b      "
     Thomas    "         13 b     "
     Alexander "           7 b     "
     Isabella    "           5 b     "

       1881. (Possible) Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Midlothian.
     JOHN ADAMSON Visitor 29 b Kinross. Mercantile Clerk Chemical.
     Elizabeth  "         Visitor 25 b Midlothian.
          Visiting David & Robina Currie.

     I can't find this John Adamson after the 1881 Census. He might be the John Adamson, age 30, along with Elizabeth Adamson, age 26, who emigrated aboard "John Elder" 31 Aug 1881, arriving Australia 19th Oct, 1881.

     If John Adamson & Mary Kelly are definitely the right couple, then their marriage certificate should name their parents, including maiden names of both mothers.
               Regards,     Dod.

     
     
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 04 December 16 19:46 GMT (UK)
I would agree ecksdochter about the address Bogbumhouse  ;D ;D
Rosie
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: garibaldired on Sunday 04 December 16 21:34 GMT (UK)
I think it's possibly Bog Burn House!
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 04 December 16 22:36 GMT (UK)
I think it's possibly Bog Burn House!

That sounds better  ;D
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: djct59 on Sunday 04 December 16 23:12 GMT (UK)
Bog Burn is south of Kinross and north of Fruix, near Gairneybank
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 05 December 16 02:36 GMT (UK)
LINKS;

https://canmore.org.uk/site/51069/bog-burn
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1384474

Annie
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 December 16 16:49 GMT (UK)
This might be relevant - they're in Anderston in 1911:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760579.msg6116699#msg6116699


Gadget

Added - marrriage cert of 1879 has John as aged 30, corn miller. Father David Adamson and mother Isabella Hardie.
Title: Re: JOHN ADAMSON - BIRTH AND DEATH IN KINROSS PLEASE FIND
Post by: buckhyne on Friday 01 September 17 17:01 BST (UK)

Added - marrriage cert of 1879 has John as aged 30, corn miller. Father David Adamson and mother Isabella Hardie.

In Kinross West Churchyard there is this MI.
David Adamson 28.3.1872, 72, wife Isabella Hardie 28.1.1884, 83, sons David & Robert, 21, daughters Helen & Cath 1y 3m.