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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: BarbaraLL on Sunday 11 December 16 14:38 GMT (UK)
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I am descended from Andrew Doyle who married Margaret Flynn in Taghmon 1833 through their son Patrick Doyle who married Elizabeth Reynolds in Taghmon in 1868. Patrick's children were put into an orphanage after 1873 but I have been unable to find any information about this or indeed any siblings for Patrick. Does anyone have any information on this branch of the Doyle family? I have been unable to find out when Patrick & Elizabeth died.
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For reference Mary Stanislaus born May 1874 at Grogans Road
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03146/2153935.pdf
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bearing in mind it is a common name
there is a death in 1874 of an Elizabeth DOYLE aged 31 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=elizabeth&namel=doyle&exact=&name2fm=&name2l=&location=&yyfrom=1874&yyto=1874¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=100&ddBfrom=&mmBfrom=&yyBfrom=&ddMfrom=&mmMfrom=&yyMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddPfrom=&mmPfrom=&yyPfrom=&ddBto=&mmBto=&yyBto=&ddMto=&mmMto=&yyMto=&ddDto=&mmDto=&yyDto=&ddPto=&mmPto=&yyPto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&locationP=&keywordb=&keywordm=&keywordd=&keywordp=&event=D&district=Wexford&submit=Search)
Wexford 1874 Q3 V14 P543
unfortunately it is not online yet to view
this maybe your Elizabeth
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I applied for the death certificate of Elizabeth Doyle age 31 but unfortunately this is not the the correct person. I have the birth details of all the children and copies of their baptisms. I think Mary Stanislau or Stanisland may have died as no one in the family was aware of her but again I have not been able to find her death, The surviving children were Margaret & Peter who both ended up in England and whose records I have.
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you could try writing to the Good Shepherd Sisters in Waterford ?
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=WX®no=15605180
there is an address at reply 13 here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056435624
i think this is the same place in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001288305/
my grand aunt was sent there in 1900 and i got a few vague details from the nuns she was there till she was 16 and then sent into service with a farmer till she was 18 my impression of the place is that it was not a bad place to be as the nuns have her recorded as visiting them in 1912 and my grand aunts niece also joined the order some years later.
My grand uncle was sent to Artane Industrial School in Dublin same scenario he was released at 16 into the service of a farmer in Dublin and was home on the 1911 census in Wexford this info i received from the Christian Brothers who i must say were very helpful.
sorry cant find the address at the moment but i think it's called the Providence Centre ?
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The Good Shepherd Home seems a good lead as my great grandfather, Peter Doyle, always said that the orphanage he had been in had burnt down and the records destroyed. He said that was why he never knew his birth date - which I have since found. He ran away when he thought he was 13 - about 1883. We always thought it was an orphanage in Wexford though.
I will write to the address in Waterford and also try the dept. of education.
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Now if i remember rightly i think the records did come back from Limerick where their archives are probably stored,whatever address i wrote to seems to have sent my request on to them.
Your records would be over 100yrs old so there should be no problem getting some info if indeed your relatives were in one of their institutions.
I think as mentioned on the other blog 1940/50s would be a bit more sensative and be inclined to get told porkies as to non existance to fob you off.
I also applied to another one for a friend whose gran and her sisters were in one of these institutions in Dublin in the 1901 census they just told me the poor unfortunate was picked up in 1897 for begging her father having had died same year but they would not give me any info on the sisters as it was not my friends direct ancestors.
So when writing make sure to include all known addresses,names and dates of birth etc
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Another very important thing i forgot to mention is the Petty Sessions unfortunately i dont have access as they are on a fee paying site.
About a year ago fellow Rootschatter TaraMc found my great grandfather summoned to the Petty Sessions around 1902 for not paying a weekly fee for his children in the institutions i think was a shilling a week per child,so you could possibly pick up something like this for Patrick Doyle.
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I have been through the court records on Find My Past with no luck. I am now ploughing through the Poor Law books to see if I can find any mention. They are at :-
http://wexfordcountyarchive.com/our-collections/digital-collections/poor-law-union-minute-books-wexford-union/
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I am descended from Andrew Doyle who married Margaret Flynn in Taghmon 1833 through their son Patrick Doyle who married Elizabeth Reynolds in Taghmon in 1868. Patrick's children were put into an orphanage after 1873 but I have been unable to find any information about this or indeed any siblings for Patrick. Does anyone have any information on this branch of the Doyle family? I have been unable to find out when Patrick & Elizabeth died.
Peter Doyle, baptized Taghmon 30th May 1833, son of Andrew Doyle and Margaret Flynn.
Patrick Doyle, baptized Taghmon 4th March 1838, " " " ".
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I am descended from Andrew Doyle who married Margaret Flynn in Taghmon 1833 through their son Patrick Doyle who married Elizabeth Reynolds in Taghmon in 1868. Patrick's children were put into an orphanage after 1873 but I have been unable to find any information about this or indeed any siblings for Patrick. Does anyone have any information on this branch of the Doyle family? I have been unable to find out when Patrick & Elizabeth died.
Peter Doyle, born 8 July 1870, baptized Wexford 10 July, son of Patrick Doyle and Bessie Reynolds
James Doyle, born 19 February 1872, baptized " 20 February, son of " " and Elizabeth Reynolds
Mary Stanislaus Doyle, born 19 May 1874, baptized Wexford 20 May, " " " ".
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I am thrilled with the details of peter Doyle born 1833 & Jmaes Doyle born 1872 as I never knew about them before & I now have copies of their baptisms. Thank you so much. :D
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Stanislaus is a **highly** unusual name for Ireland at this time. There must be some backstory as to where this name came from.
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The names is Stanislau on the baptism and Stanisland on the birth certificate. Iam trying to find if there is any connection and have looked for someone with that surname from Wexford but with no luck yet.
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I have no doubt it is Stanislaus and it would be a catholic saints name as is typical in the majority of baptisms to add a saints name on baptism.
i have come across several nuns using this name as well as christian brothers even had a De La Salle brother who taught me in school known as Brother Stanislaus.
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Saint Stanislaus, martyred Bishop of Kraków
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaus_of_Szczepan%C3%B3w
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The names is Stanislau on the baptism and Stanisland on the birth certificate. Iam trying to find if there is any connection and have looked for someone with that surname from Wexford but with no luck yet.
I would have to disagree with you on the spelling, and agree with Dathai.
- On the civil registration, the name is clearly Stanislaus. I think you are being mislead into reading it as Stanisland by the fact that the final letters overlap with the bottom loop of the cursive capital F in "Female" in the following word.
- The baptism entry is less clear, but I think it ends on a form of cursive s.
Also, Dathai is correct that this is a Christian name, so I don't think you will find anyone with that name as a surname in Wexford.
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Saint Stanislaus, martyred Bishop of Kraków
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaus_of_Szczepan%C3%B3w
Or St. Stanislaus Kostka of the Society of Jesus - perhaps more likely?
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14245b.htm (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14245b.htm)
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There was a sister in the society of St. Joseph from Wexford - strangely enough named DOYLE whose name in religion was Sr. Mary Stanislaus - I wonder if there was a connection?
She died in Tasmania in 1946
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I agree the name is Stanislau and I have since discovered that it is a Saint's name.
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Wondering if there are links with your Doyle and my ancestors from Taghmon area. John Furlong married a Margaret Doyle (although our family records, about 60 years later, name her on a child's death certificate as Catherine). Their child was named Peter born in 1835. Peter seems to be fairly uncommon and it is reappearing in your Doyle line. Just wondering if you can make any connections?
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Sorry but I cannot make any connection as yet as I am still trying to find records.
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One of the sections of the Wexford Men's Confraternity, founded in 1868, was named for St. Stanislaus. I would suggest that that is the source of the name.