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The Downes Family arrived in Sydney NSW 9 August 1883 from London England (Tilbury).
On a boat called "Pathan".
I'm hoping to:
1. Trace their addresses?
2. Occupations?
3. Marriage Partners and Children?
Grateful for any help :-*
George Downes, Railway Worker, aged 35 (1883)
Mary Anne Downes 34 (Nee Elliston)
Bessie Downes 8
Laura Downes 4
Emily Downes 1
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Have you got any more details for this family?
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Possibly births NSW https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
Birth 3524/1884 Frederick W. DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary Ann.; SYDNEY
Death 642/1885 Frederick W. DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary Ann.; SYDNEY
Birth 4885/1887 Charles F. DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary A.; LEICHHARDT
Birth 4853/1889 Florence M. DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary A.; LEICHHARDT
Birth 5/8/1891 # 18926 George DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary A.; LEICHHARDT
Death 26/8/1891 #8065 George DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary A.; LEICHHARDT
Birth 20/10/1892 #19547 George DOWNES; Father-George; Mother-Mary A.; LEICHHARDT
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Hi photomax,
Welcome to rootschat :)
This seems to be marriage of Laura in 1913 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15403561
From nsw bdm
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
marriage
1913 reg 2810/1913. COOKE Garnet M, DOWNES Laura, at Petersham
Death 1969
COOKE Laura, father George, mother Mary Ann, at Newtown
From ryerson index http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
There is a death notice in Sydney morning herald. Hang on and I will post it
Ros
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Funeral notice for a George Downes mentioning a daughter Mrs B Chambers:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16554827
Mary A DOWNES 11022/1921 father Joseph and mother Martha PETERSHAM
George DOWNES 6955/1929 Father James and mother Mary A ASHFIELD
Rookwood Anglican Section 6 Row 8 Grave 1673
Inscription:
Downes, Mary Ann 06 Jul 1921 72
Downes, George 18 Jun 1929 82
Death of daughter Bessie:
Bessie CHAMBERS 24672/1942 father George and mother Mary Ann ASHFIELD
Bessie and Fred Chambers buried Rookwood: Methodist Section 2W Row 7 Grave 340
Inscription:
My husb Fred 30 May 1925 aged 52
Our mother Bessie 4 November 1942 aged 66
Inscription on footstone: Dad Mum
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SMH 19June1929 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16554899
DOWNES-June l8 1929 at his daughters residence 13 Northcote street Haberfield George dearly loved husband of the late Mary Ann Downes and father of Bessie, Laura, Emily, Charles, Florence and George aged 82 years
SMH 19June1929 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16554827
DOWNES.—The Relatives and Friends of the late GEORGE DOWNES are invited to attend his Funeral; to leave the residence of his daughter (Mrs. B. Chambers), 13 Northcote-street, Haberfield, THIS AFTERNOON, at 2.15, for Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood...
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Death notice for Laura COOKE
Ros
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Rookwood Cemetery
George DOWNES; age 82; date of interment 19/06/1929; Zone C 06 1673
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j21/
MARY DOWNES; age 72; date of interment 7/07/1921; Zone C 06 1673
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j22/
FREDERICK DOWNES; 4 (?mths?); 20/04/1885; Zone B R 1388
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j2b/
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Death & Funeral notices for Mary Ann Downes
Death notice SMH 6July1921 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15928809
Funeral notice SMH 7July1921 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15935455
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Deceased Estate
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j23/
DOWNES, George; Haberfield; 18/06/1929; Occupation: gentleman
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j2e/
DOWNES, Mary A; Leichhardt; 05/07/1921; Occupation: married woman
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NSW Government Employees Granted Military Leave, 1914-1918
The son?
DOWNES, George; Clerk Railways and Tramways; Traffic, Railways
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j24/
Australian Railway Supply Detachment
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j2f/
DOWNES; G. Private; Fourth Row 7th from right ; series 17420
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/digitalcontent.aspx?id=17420_a014_a014000498
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If it is of use to you, other ELLISTON deaths, with parents Joseph / Martha, to see at NSW BDM index.
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naa.gov.au (digital file online)
Downes George : SERN 2570 : POB Leichhardt NSW : POE Marrickville NSW : NOK M Downes Mrs M A
Returned Soldier Settlement Loan Files
DOWNES, George; Gosford
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j25/
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It seems Emily married Cuthbert COLEMAN in 1915 ( see nsw bdm)
Emily Coleman with parents George and Mary Ann died in 1943 ( see nsw bdm)
Death notice for Emily Dora Coleman http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17846939
Ros
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It seems Emily married Cuthbert COLEMAN in 1915 ( see nsw bdm)
Emily Coleman with parents George and Mary Ann died in 1943 ( see nsw bdm)
Death notice for Emily Dora Coleman http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17846939
Ros
Funeral notice same page. Cremated at Rookwood.
J.
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Bessie married Fred CHambers in 1900 at Leichhardt ( see nsw bdm)
Bessie Chambers with parents George and Mary Ann died in 1942 ( see nsw bdm)
Death notice http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17817568
Ros
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You can see births for Fred and Bessie Chambers up until dec 1916 at nsw bdm
WW2 service for Chambers sons
Fred http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=R&veteranId=1043061
George http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=201647
Allan http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=227508
Ros
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Marriage for Florence http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17203284 in 1935 ( see nsw bdm)
Death 1946 Florence May Mulhall with parents Bessie and Frederick in 1946 (see nsw bdm)
Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17980856
Ros
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The other Chambers son, Ernest died in 1953 (see nsw bdm)
He married in 1929 ( see nsw bdm)
Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18377021
Ros
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Death notice Frederick Noel CHAMBERS from Sydney Morning Herald 18 June 1962
Ros
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Death Notice Allan Edward CHAMBERS from SMH 24 Feb 1983
Ros
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Death notice George Albert CHAMBERS from SMH 2 Sep 1976
Ros
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The son George DOWNES who was born in 1892 enlisted for ww1 service and his record is digitised.
He was (as has been noted) a railways clerk and his mother was his NOK and her address is given.
Later in the file there is a hand written letter dated 1967 from his wife,Stella.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/
Here is their marriage.
6999/1920
DOWNES George
MARCHANT Stella M
At MARRICKVILLE
Sue
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Stella Merita Downes plaque at Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crematorium
http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/stella-merita-downes/774115
George: http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/george-downes/720152
George Downes 20841/1951 father George and mother Mary Ann CHATSWOOD
J.
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from NSW BDM there is a death of George Sidney Downes (who I think is grandson of George and Mary Ann and son of George and Stella who Sue posted above)
1964 George Sidney DOWNES, father George, mother Stella Merita at Albury reg 9392/1964
His death notice names wife and children and also sisters and brothers (from SMH 21 Jan 1964)
Ros
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Death notice Frederick Noel CHAMBERS from Sydney Morning Herald 18 June 1962
Ros
At Rookwood Independent Section K Row 43 Grave 2436
F.N. Chambers 16 June 1962 age 45
Flying Officer R.A.A.F. 413. Husb. Sylvia. Father of Robert & Helen (Air Force Plaque)
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Death Notice Allan Edward CHAMBERS from SMH 24 Feb 1983
Ros
Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crematorium
http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/allan-edward-chambers/734428
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Death notice Stella Merita DOWNES (from SMH 28 sep 1990)
Ros
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Death notice George Albert CHAMBERS from SMH 2 Sep 1976
Ros
Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crematorium
http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/george-albert-chambers/789516
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From NSW BDM
Death 1985
Geoffrey Elliston DOWNES, father George and mother Stella reg 3428/1985
Death notice from SMH 11 Jan 1985
Ros
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From NSW BDM
Death 1985
Geoffrey Elliston DOWNES, father George and mother Stella reg 3428/1985
Death notice from SMH 11 Jan 1985
Ros
Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crematorium
http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/geoffrey-elliston-downes/698843
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The other Chambers son, Ernest died in 1953 (see nsw bdm)
He married in 1929 ( see nsw bdm)
Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18377021
Ros
Rookwood Anglican: Age 52 interred 26 May 1953
Zone D Section 16B Grave no.393
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Marriage for Florence http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17203284 in 1935 ( see nsw bdm)
Death 1946 Florence May Mulhall with parents Bessie and Frederick in 1946 (see nsw bdm)
Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17980856
Ros
Florence May and husband Leslie Arthur Lavender Mulhall
Rookwood Methodist: Florence - 1 June 1946 age 43 Section 1AW Part 1 Row 11 Grave 260
My wife & our mother
Leslie - 17 February 1981 age 77
Our father. (Inscription on central urn - "From children & grandchildren")
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Leslie MULHALL death notice from SMH 19 feb 1981
Ros
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Death of Charles Walter SPARE from SMH 25 March 2006. He was son-in-law of Leslie and Florence MULHALL. he married their daughter in 1964
Ros
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From NSW BDM
death 1965
COOKE Eric Morse, father Garnet Morse, mother Laura, at Marrickville.
Death notice from SMH 20 May 1965
Ros
adding : WW2 service for Eric Morse COOKE
http://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=321359&c=WW2
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From NSW BDM death
1965
COOKE Sydney George, father Garnet Morse, mother Laura, at Gosford
Death notice from SMH 22 oct 1965
Ros
adding WW2 service for Sydney George COOKE
http://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=132533&c=WW2
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Death notice for Cuthbert COLEMAN (husband of Emily) in 1951
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18234669
Daughter Dora May COLEMAN married Vernon ODBERT in 1944
Dora May ODBERT died 2007 (from SMH 28 May 2007) [Vernon is deceased]
Ros
adding :
WW2 service for Victor Elliston COLEMAN
http://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=248022&c=WW2
From ryerson index http://ryersonindex.org/ Victor Elliston COLEMAN died
17 Oct 2007, aged 86, at Calvary Health Care, late of Caringbah
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Woronora cemetery:
Victor Elliston Coleman died 17-10-2007 buried 23-10-2007
Burial General Plaque Lawn - Casuarina Lawn - 1525
Buried with:
Elva June Coleman died 23-8-2013 buried 30-8-2013
COLEMAN Elva June (Elvie) Death notice 23 August 2013 Death 90 late of Caringbah St George & Sutherland Leader 27 August 2013
Jamjar
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Death notice for Edna Millicent McKeon (from smh 29 July 1991).
Edna is daughter of Laura and Garnet COOKE. She first married a HARLOW but there was a divorce https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1219942
She then married McKeon in 1951.
Ros
Adding : death notice for Garnet Morse COOKE http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18123666
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How are you doing Photomax ? :) Have you been able to find the info on NSW BDM
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx for yourself?
It's free to use and can use wildcards so is very useful for your NSW family.
Just shout if you have any problems :) (all the BDMs vary and have their own quirks)
cheers,
Ros
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The Downes Family arrived in Sydney NSW 9 August 1883 from London England (Tilbury).
On a boat called "Pathan".
I'm hoping to:
1. Trace their addresses?
2. Occupations?
3. Marriage Partners and Children?
Grateful for any help :-*
George Downes, Railway Worker, aged 35 (1883)
Mary Anne Downes 34 (Nee Elliston)
Bessie Downes 8
Laura Downes 4
Emily Downes 1
Welcome to RootsChat Photomax,
Here's some information that may add to the helpful information already posted. To reply to any post you need to 'log on' :)
NSW Electoral Roll 1902/3 for the electorate of DALLEY, polling at Leichhardt.
This is the first roll that included females aged 21 years and over.
Emily DOWNES, 44 George Street, domestic duties
George DOWNES 39 Junior Street, labourer
George DOWNES, 44 George Street, engine-driver
Laura DOWNES, 44 George Street, domestic duties
Mary Ann DOWNES, 44 George Street, domestic duties
Robert DOWNES, 33 Foster Street, painter
NO OTHERS WITH THAT SURNAME AT THAT POLLING PLACE.
ADD, same roll, same polling place etc.
Bessie CHAMBERS, 50 George St, domestic duties
Fred CHAMBERS, George St, clerk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Dalley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichhardt,_New_South_Wales
ADD, Google Street View for George Street Leichhardt is as recent as September 2016, :) :)
JM
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Electoral Roll Info for Garnet Morse COOKE and Laura COOKE
1930 marrickville
Garnet Morse COOKE, 57 Day St , butcher
Laura COOKE, 57 Day St, home duties
1936 Marrickville
Garnet Morse COOKE, 49 Day St, butcher
Laura COOKE, 49 Day St, home duties
Edna Millicent COOKE, 49 Day St, clerk
1943 Marrickville
Garnet Morse COOKE, 49 Day St, butcher
Laura COOKE, 49 Day st, home duties
Eric Morse COOKE, 49 Day St, storeman and packer
Sydney George COOKE, 49 Day St, butcher
1949 Marrickville
Eric, Garnet and Laura at 49 Day st
Ros
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Electoral Roll info for Cuthbert and Emily COLEMAN
1933 Ashbury
Cuthbert Victor COLEMAN , Yamba, 5 Second St, South Ashfield, porter
Emily Dora COLEMAN, 5 Second St, south ashfield, home duties
1935 same
1943 Parkes, Croyden East
Cuthbert Victor COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, Ashfield, railway employee
Emily Dora COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, home duties
Valma Lillian COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, Ashfield, clerk
Dora May COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, home duties
1949 Evans, Croyden East
Cuthbert Victor COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, Ashfield, railway employee
Valma Lillian COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, Ashfield, clerk
Mary Ellen COLEMAN, 22 Hampden St, Ashfield, home duties
Ros
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Electoral Roll info for George DOWNES (jun) and Stella Merita DOWNES
1930 Werriwa, Ingleburn
George DOWNES, Glenfield, storekeeper
Stella Merita DOWNES, Glenfield, home duties
1935 Werriwa, Ingleburn
George DOWNES, Railway Parade, Glenfield, storekeeper
Stella Merita DOWNES, Railway Parade, Glenfield, home duties
1943 same as above
1949 Ingleburn
George Sidney DOWNES, Belmont Rd, Glenfield, mechanic
George DOWNES, railway pde, Glenfield, storekeeper
Stella Merita DOWNES, railway pde, Glenfield, home duties
Alan Marchant DOWNES, railway Pde, Glenfield, student
1949 Bradfield, Turramurra
George DOWNES, 14 Katina St, no occupation
Stella Merita DOWNES, 14 Katina St, home duties
1958 Bradfield, Turramurra
Stella Merita DOWNES, 14 Katina St, home duties
Geoffrey Elliston DOWNES, 14 Katina St, engraver
Ros
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Electoral Roll Info for Bessie CHAMBERS
1930 Parkes, Haberfield
Bessie CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, Home duties
Florence May CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, Home duties
1935 same as above
1936
Bessie CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, HD
Alan Edward CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, _
1937
Bessie CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, HD
Alan Edward CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, storeman
Frederick Noel CHAMBERS, 13 Northcote St, Haberfield, storeman
Ros
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Ros thanks for all your help, most appreciated
Max
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It is a pleasure to help Max :) by all of us - a team effort.
Cheers Ros
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Hi Ros,
This is my family, I am George and Mary anne
Great grand son. Are you related?
Cheers
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Hi Gesith,
Welcome to rootschat :)
No I am not related but I guess Max is. He will have been notified of your post so hopefully will be along soon.
Ros
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Hi Ros & Gesith
The Father of Mary Ann - Joseph Elliston is my G,G,GrandFather.
My interests in The Downes Family 1883 is:-
1. To compile a Family Tree From Mary Ann & George and their six children,
2. To identify weather a "Geraldine" [a cousin] is in that Tree?
Thanks for any help Max
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Is Geraldine a Downes or and Elliston any dates?
Jennifer
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Hi Jennifer
This is part of the puzzle for me I only know her given name - Geraldine.
I'm assuming that Mary Ann & George would be her G,G,Parents.
She was in her early twenties in the 1960's
Max
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Hi Max,
I know Maryann Elliston had at least 4 brothers who also emigrated to Australia as well.
Frederick, Thomas, James & Charles, I have no record of a Geraldine
Cheers
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Hi Max
You can see George and Maryann "Tree" from my website:
http://ardownes.com/AustDownes.html
Cheers
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Hi Gesith
Have had computer probs!
Thanks for the chart, very interesting and informative it's given me an image I did not have -
Fred & Maryann + family and something to work on.
Do you know if Fred & Maryann stayed in NSW all their lives, or did they spend some time in
Dongara, Western Aus?
Max
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Fred & Maryann? Don't you mean George & Maryann, we were never in western Australia. All went to Sydney NSW
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Yes my mistake.
Thanks for update.
Max