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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: saw119 on Friday 30 December 16 14:43 GMT (UK)
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So I only discovered today where my Irish ancestors came from, Roscommon, and I was wary having heard that Irish records were difficult. I had a little search on FindMyPast and it seems that a suitable person has appeared in the right area and the right date. I can't be this lucky can I? What are the chances of the John Mullaney born 1833 in Roscommon is my ancestor?
I'm now not convinced his name is John, help!
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You'll have to give a lot more information than John Mullaney born somewhere in Roscommon in 1833 for anyone to even have a chance of helping.
Like why were you looking in Roscommon and where did he end up, and who did he marry and who are his parents, and where did you find him?
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I'm not really asking for help at the moment just enquiring about Irish records and thinking aloud. I knew I had some Irish ancestry but today I discovered where in Ireland for the first time. Roscommon comes from the 1871 UK census, John's wife Ann's birthplace says Mayo. John dies in 1881. As I said just thinking aloud really. Probably not the best place to do it but you guys on here are so helpful.
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Fair enough,
There no reason you shouldn't strick lucky, some people have to don't they.
Do you want to expand on the "not convinced his name is John"
I expect it's a parish record with the first name in Latin. There is a few variations for John, depends on the priest.
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I can't post a picture of it at the moment but it seems to be:
Joh then some small letters with a dot beneath them. Perhaps a contraction of Johannes?
I'll try and post a grab of it tomorrow, I am struggling to read it.
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If it is online just post a link to it....
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There is a transcribed record for the baptism of a John Mullaney in 1833 in Boyle, Roscommon. I don't know if it's the same one you have found, but this states he was RC - father Michael Mullaney - mother Mary (maiden name not given).
Sponsors John Mullaney and Mary Conor.
What did your John name his eldest son? That is sometimes a clue for a father's name.
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http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=ire%2fprs%2fmicrofilm04607-04%2f0040&parentid=ire%2fprs%2fbap%2f5806412&highlights=%22%22
Left hand page baptism dated 20th
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There is a transcribed record for the baptism of a John Mullaney in 1833 in Boyle, Roscommon. I don't know if it's the same one you have found, but this states he was RC - father Michael Mullaney - mother Mary (maiden name not given).
Sponsors John Mullaney and Mary Conor.
What did your John name his eldest son? That is sometimes a clue for a father's name.
Sounds like a transcription of the register I'm looking at. John named his first child Peter.
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I would normally expect that John's father's name to be Peter if that is what he names his eldest son (although it's not set in stone - that was part of the traditional Irish naming pattern).
Have you found his marriage to Ann? Was that in Ireland or England? If it was in England you could order the marriage cert and obtain his father's name.
If in Ireland - before 1864 you will need the parish record, which often gives the fathers names.
In addition -- if they had children in England - you can obtain Ann's maiden name from the Index at the General Register Office from the child's birth entry.
That would help in finding the correct marriage.
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http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=ire%2fprs%2fmicrofilm04607-04%2f0040&parentid=ire%2fprs%2fbap%2f5806412&highlights=%22%22
Left hand page baptism dated 20th
You need a sub with FindMyPast for that,
Free on NLI
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633914#page/40/mode/1up
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I would normally expect that John's father's name to be Peter if that is what he names his eldest son (although it's not set in stone - that was part of the traditional Irish naming pattern).
Have you found his marriage to Ann? Was that in Ireland or England? If it was in England you could order the marriage cert and obtain his father's name.
If in Ireland - before 1864 you will need the parish record, which often gives the fathers names.
In addition -- if they had children in England - you can obtain Ann's maiden name from the Index at the General Register Office from the child's birth entry.
That would help in finding the correct marriage.
Haven't established that yet it's next on my list of things to do.
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http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=ire%2fprs%2fmicrofilm04607-04%2f0040&parentid=ire%2fprs%2fbap%2f5806412&highlights=%22%22
Left hand page baptism dated 20th
You need a sub with FindMyPast for that,
Free on NLI
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633914#page/40/mode/1up
Didn't know of that resource so thanks.