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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: Curley on Saturday 31 December 16 12:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
Researching Kenneth Mckinney, WW1 veteran. According to military records on Ancestry he was born about 1881-1883 in Tyrone. His father was Samuel McKinney.and Presbyterian
According to 1901 census Samuel was born in Donegal.about 1851.
looking for possible place of birth and any other family information.
thanks
Curley
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Have you tried Civil Reg on irishgenealogy?
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Did he marry Rose Starn? or Starr?
Maggsie
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Have you tried Civil Reg on irishgenealogy?
I can't see a birth anywhere for a Kenneth McKinney- wonder if he would be registered under another name?
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Forget the Rose lady.
In Griffiths Valuation there is one McKinney
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=mckinney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=DONEGAL&unionname=&parishname=&Submit.x=36&Submit.y=6
This being Maria, poss Samuel's Mother. this was in 1858.
Maggsie
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Could this be the family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Oaklands/Glenarny/1729402/
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1911 married 12 years
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Oaklands/Glenarny/859140/
So Margaret isn't Kenneth's mother.
Looks like Samuel died 1917
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639555911
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1899 marriage Samuel McKinney (widower) father also Samuel.
Married Maggie Gibson.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10397/5785676.pdf
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Of the images viewable I don't see a death for his first wife in Magherafelt, there is a Mary with husband Samuel but that is a different couple.
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Just to expand-
Probate of the Will of Samuel McKinney late of Glenarney County Tyrone Farmer who died 14 July 1917 granted at Armagh to Patrick McDonald Farmer Will mentions wife Margaret & sons Kenneth & Thomas (with provisions as to them surviving the War).
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
This isn't available to view online but PRONI will have the file-
McKinney Kenneth of Glenarney Cookstown county Tyrone farmer died 15 April 1953 at Mid-Ulster Hospital Magherafelt county Londonderry Administration Belfast 23 July to Margaret Gall widow. Effects £718 7s. 11d.
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Hi All
Maggsie,I have looked at Irish Ancestry,but have found different spellings for McKinney,ie McKenny.M'kennie,very confusing.possible Samuel at Treansallagh, in Griffiths near Strabane.
Sinann and Aghadowey ,All the information you have listed is correct.
The Margaret Gall (widow) I think couldbe Kenneth.s step mother.
Thanks for all your efforts
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Samuel's first wife was possibly Elizabeth:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05799/4641054.pdf
Can't find a child Kenneth (maybe a middle name adopted as first name?), but there was a couple called Samuel McKinney and Eliza McElwein / McIlwaine / McElwain (and other variations) who had a number of children in Donegal & Tyrone, including this Thomas in 1877:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02991/2096031.pdf
Edited to add: This Samuel McKinney married Elizabeth McIlwaine in 1862 in Rathmullan Presbyterian Church in Donegal, him and her were servants, his father was Samuel McKinney, a farmer.
Interestingly, another of their children's births places the couple in Oaklands:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03265/2196753.pdf
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Saw that couple earlier- a son David born 1880-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2049902.pdf
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Saw that couple earlier- a son David born 1880-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2049902.pdf
Saw that. And James (1875) below, but no sign of Kenneth middlename:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03106/2138946.pdf
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That will learn me, I didn't look for a death in 1899 because he married the same year I stopped 1898.
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Hi there. Patrick McDonald mentioned above will be my gg grandfather. He lived at Gortreagh, where some of the births occurred. He also had a brother Daniel who was at Glenarny.
I’d love to know why he was in the will?
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Patrick McDonald mentioned above will be my gg grandfather. He lived at Gortreagh, where some of the births occurred. ............
I’d love to know why he was in the will?
Patrick was one of the executors of Samuel McKinney's will.
See- https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=291023
Is this your Patrick McDonald in 1901 census?
Residents of a house 32 in Gortreagh (Oaklands, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Oaklands/Gortreagh/1729440/
KG
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That’s him :)
I wonder why he was included? Because he was a neighbour? Or could their be a family connection? He was a JP.
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Probably because he was a neighbouring farmer and a good friend.
Both townlands are very close to eachother.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oaklands/glenarny/
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oaklands/gortreagh/
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I’d say. He also had a sister in-law and two nephews (Margaret Kennelly and Matthew and John McDonald) farming in Glenarny townland in 1901 and 1911.