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Title: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Curley on Saturday 31 December 16 12:59 GMT (UK)
Hi All
Researching Kenneth Mckinney, WW1 veteran. According to military records on Ancestry he was born about 1881-1883 in Tyrone. His father was Samuel McKinney.and Presbyterian
According to 1901 census Samuel was born in Donegal.about 1851.
looking for possible place of birth and any other family information.
thanks
Curley
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 31 December 16 13:36 GMT (UK)
Have you tried Civil Reg on irishgenealogy?
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Maggsie on Saturday 31 December 16 13:40 GMT (UK)
Did he marry Rose Starn? or Starr?
Maggsie
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 31 December 16 13:42 GMT (UK)
Have you tried Civil Reg on irishgenealogy?

I can't see a birth anywhere for a Kenneth McKinney- wonder if he would be registered under another name?
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Maggsie on Saturday 31 December 16 14:23 GMT (UK)
Forget the Rose lady.
In Griffiths Valuation there is one McKinney
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=mckinney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=DONEGAL&unionname=&parishname=&Submit.x=36&Submit.y=6

This being Maria, poss Samuel's Mother. this was in 1858.

Maggsie
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 31 December 16 14:56 GMT (UK)
Could this be the family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Oaklands/Glenarny/1729402/
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 31 December 16 15:13 GMT (UK)
1911 married 12 years
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Oaklands/Glenarny/859140/
So Margaret isn't Kenneth's mother.

Looks like Samuel died 1917
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639555911
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 31 December 16 15:21 GMT (UK)
1899 marriage Samuel McKinney (widower) father also Samuel.
Married Maggie Gibson.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10397/5785676.pdf
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 31 December 16 15:33 GMT (UK)
Of the images viewable I don't see a death for his first wife in Magherafelt, there is a Mary with husband Samuel but that is a different couple.
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 31 December 16 16:03 GMT (UK)
Just to expand-
Probate of the Will of Samuel McKinney late of Glenarney County Tyrone Farmer who died 14 July 1917 granted at Armagh to Patrick McDonald Farmer Will mentions wife Margaret & sons Kenneth & Thomas (with provisions as to them surviving the War).
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

This isn't available to view online but PRONI will have the file-
McKinney Kenneth of Glenarney Cookstown county Tyrone farmer died 15 April 1953 at Mid-Ulster Hospital Magherafelt county Londonderry Administration Belfast 23 July to Margaret Gall widow. Effects £718 7s. 11d.
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Curley on Saturday 31 December 16 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi All
Maggsie,I have looked at Irish Ancestry,but have found different spellings for McKinney,ie McKenny.M'kennie,very confusing.possible Samuel at Treansallagh, in Griffiths near Strabane.
Sinann and Aghadowey ,All the information you have listed is correct.
The Margaret Gall (widow) I think couldbe Kenneth.s step mother.
Thanks for all your efforts
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 31 December 16 17:49 GMT (UK)
Samuel's first wife was possibly Elizabeth:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05799/4641054.pdf

Can't find a child Kenneth (maybe a middle name adopted as first name?), but there was a couple called Samuel McKinney and Eliza McElwein / McIlwaine / McElwain (and other variations) who had a number of children in Donegal & Tyrone, including this Thomas in 1877:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02991/2096031.pdf

Edited to add: This Samuel McKinney married Elizabeth McIlwaine in 1862 in Rathmullan Presbyterian Church in Donegal, him and her were servants, his father was Samuel McKinney, a farmer.

Interestingly, another of their children's births places the couple in Oaklands:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03265/2196753.pdf

Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 31 December 16 18:06 GMT (UK)
Saw that couple earlier- a son David born 1880-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2049902.pdf
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 31 December 16 18:12 GMT (UK)
Saw that couple earlier- a son David born 1880-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2049902.pdf

Saw that. And James (1875) below, but no sign of Kenneth middlename:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03106/2138946.pdf
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 31 December 16 20:42 GMT (UK)
That will learn me, I didn't look for a death in 1899 because he married the same year I stopped 1898.
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: imcb on Sunday 18 July 21 12:46 BST (UK)
Hi there. Patrick McDonald mentioned above will be my gg grandfather. He lived at Gortreagh, where some of the births occurred. He also had a brother Daniel who was at Glenarny.
I’d love to know why he was in the will?
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 19 July 21 11:54 BST (UK)
Patrick McDonald mentioned above will be my gg grandfather. He lived at Gortreagh, where some of the births occurred. ............
I’d love to know why he was in the will?

Patrick was one of the executors of Samuel McKinney's will.
See- https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=291023

Is this your Patrick McDonald in 1901 census?
Residents of a house 32 in Gortreagh (Oaklands, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Oaklands/Gortreagh/1729440/

KG

Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: imcb on Monday 19 July 21 12:13 BST (UK)
That’s him :)
I wonder why he was included? Because he was a neighbour? Or could their be a family connection? He was a JP.
Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 19 July 21 12:47 BST (UK)

Probably because he was a neighbouring farmer and a good friend.

Both townlands are very close to eachother.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oaklands/glenarny/
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oaklands/gortreagh/

Title: Re: Samuel McKinney
Post by: imcb on Monday 19 July 21 13:03 BST (UK)
I’d say. He also had a sister in-law and two nephews (Margaret Kennelly and Matthew and John McDonald) farming in Glenarny townland in 1901 and 1911.