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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: oldwhitefrog on Monday 02 January 17 08:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Looking for some help with Emily Barnett She was in Brixworth Workhouse in 1901 and 1911 with her daughter Violet. She's listed as born in Manchester in 1884. She married Joseph Wykes in Spratton in 1917.
I've been trying to track down a birth record, a location in 1891 (appreciate this might not be Northants) and any information from the workhouse.
Thanks in advance.
Debbie
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The only birth registered in the name of Emily Barnett in Lancashire 1882/6 was in Ormskirk June Q 1882.
In 1891 Emily Barnett (b 1882) was living with her parents in Old Turnpike Road, Ormskirk. Father Henry, his wife Ann, and stepson James Rigby (age 17). ( Courtesy of Family Search)
The names of Henry Barnett and Ann Rigby on same page Dec Q 1880 Ormskirk.
P S Ignore this. The family are still together in 1901.
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Hi,
I looked at that record and that Emily is still with Henry and Ann in 1901 so can't be the same one.
I guess the workhouse had her place of birth as Manchester so that is what they put on both the census' but maybe that wasn't quite right.
Thanks for help,
Debbie
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You could possibly get her birthdate from the 1939 register (FindMyPast) She and Joseph are there but on the free index her birthyear says 1885 ( I can t access full record to read date) which would nt seem to tally with her death at aged 77 in 1960.
A marriage certificate could help if it named a father.
Cathy
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There are records for Brixworth Workhouse at Northants Record Office. Unfortunately not as many Admissions / Inmates books as some Workhouses, though.
You can see what there is at http://nro.adlibhosting.com/search/advanced (http://nro.adlibhosting.com/search/advanced)
Search for "Brixworth Union" rather than Brixworth Workhouse, and put PL in the Reference box
What I don't understand is why Emily was in Brixworth Workhouse, rather than being returned to her home town under the settlement rules. So there may be discussions about her in the Guardians minutes, or in the letter books.
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In 1901/1911 Emily is listed as "imbecile"/"feeble-minded" so perhaps it was not possible for her to return. :-\
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But, then, how come she'd got down here anyway?
Employer moved to the area, then not overseen her, then abandoned her? :'(
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HI.
Debbie I have copies of Brixworth workhouses births for the time.
The Entry for Violet states,
24th Apr 1900, Violet, parents Emily Barnett, belonging to the parish of Moulton, illegitimate, baptised 11th May 1900 privately baptised in house.
Sandy
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In 1901/1911 Emily is listed as "imbecile"/"feeble-minded" so perhaps it was not possible for her to return. :-\
I wondered about that,and thought it may have only been said as she had an illegitimate daughter at age 16/17.
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Thanks everyone!
I also wondered why she should be in Brixworth if she is from Manchester. They'll be a story there!
Thanks
Debbie
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Hi again Debbie.
I would have looked at the marriage for you but the Discover department has such
short days-hours now it is difficult to find them open.
Maybe later in the week.
Sandy
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I nipped into the Local Studies today with no luck.
There was no marriage at Pitsford C of E or Brixworth couldn't find the fiche for Spratton.
I tried to look at Moulton for the same period but the fiche were missing.
It maybe a Registry Office one that took place at Brixworth or another Church
but I did not have time or records available (some still held at Parish Churches) to
search further for all in the Registration District.
Sandy
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Just to confirm there is no marriage at Spratton P.C. for Emily.
Sandy
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I decided to purchase the marriage from GRO Debbie, should arrive next week. :)
Sandy
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The certificate has arrived.
Not many clues though.
It was at Brixworth Register Office and Emily noted her father as George (deceased).
Sandy
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Possible information although not Manchester, yet we know how often
mis-informed folk were in places relating to themselves.
Possible parents seem to be George Barnett and Harriet Hill.
On the 1881 census Harriet states to be of Kingsthorpe.
She is in Kingsthorpe in 1851-1871.
Therefore possible parents are Daniel and Hannah.
George and Harriet had 3 children
Lucy J in 1878, William Henry Lewis in 1881 who died in 1882,
and Emily in 1883.
Lucy is in Nantwich Workhouse in 1891 aged 13 and she later
marries William Johnson in 1895 and is on the 1901 in Monks Copperhall.
Sandy
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Sandy,
You are an absolute star! Thank you so much for all your work on this one. I did wonder if the Manchester location was something of a red herring. I'll start working with the information you have found.
Thanks!
Debbie
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HI Debbie I will message you. :)
Sandy