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Title: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: nenepops on Monday 02 January 17 21:54 GMT (UK)
Trying to look for Elizabeth's relatives, parents siblings etc... She was born 1862 in Carlisle. She married Martin Jardine, he was born in 1869 Middlebie Dumfriesshire.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 22:29 GMT (UK)
They appear to have married in Scotland - 1890 in Hawick

You can download a copy of their marriage cert which will give you both sets of parents names plus mothers maiden name

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Same info is available on her death cert from the same website
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: nenepops on Monday 02 January 17 22:36 GMT (UK)
I am unsure as I can't find the marriage details.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 22:39 GMT (UK)
1890 in Hawick - see my reply above which I edited before your reply

SP is a pay per view site so you will have to register and buy credits to download the cert.  I used the free index and found there was only one Martin Jardine marriage and spouse was Elizabeth Johnstone
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: nenepops on Monday 02 January 17 22:58 GMT (UK)
That's brilliant, thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 23:07 GMT (UK)
The English 1871 has an Elizabeth Johnstone b Carlisle 1864 - parents Alexander & Elizabeth and another b 1866 parents John & Grace.  If you find either of those names on her 1890 marriage cert the 1871 is free to search here.

The Scottish 1901 shows her aged 39

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 23:18 GMT (UK)
In 1891 - Martin Jardine is shown as a visitor at his parents house.  Elizabeth is not with him and I can't find her on either the Scottish or English 1891 under Johnston(e) or Jardine at the moment
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 23:24 GMT (UK)
Found her with her parents in Hawick Roxburghshire Scotland under Johnstone but with an 1869 birthyear

David Johnstone   58 woollen pattern weaver b   Gretna, Dumfriesshire
Elizabeth    61 b Annan
Elizabeth Johnstone   22 daughter  b England
Elizabeth Johnstone   3 b Hawick -  boarder
Joseph Jardine   5 Months b Hawick - boarder
Hawick ED 6 Page 14 Line 15
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 23:34 GMT (UK)
In 1871 she is shown as Betsy - aged 2

Langholm Dumfriesshire

David Johnstone   38 woollen waver b Gretna
Elizabeth  41 b Annan
James  15 b England
John  13 b Annan
Janet 7 b Gretna
Betsy  2 b England
Langholm ED 6 Page 22 Line 11
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 02 January 17 23:44 GMT (UK)
In 1861 they are in Dumfries with sons James & John but also a 9mth old daughter Mary E b Gretna.  As she does not appear on the 1871 she may have died between censuses

Interestingly - they have a boarder James Jardine aged 24 b Hoddom?? Dumfries

Graitney ED 1 Page 11 Line 15
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: nenepops on Tuesday 03 January 17 19:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your help.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 January 17 19:27 GMT (UK)
2 things

Did you get her Carlisle birthplace from the 1911 entry?

Would still recommend downloading a copy of the 1890 marriage cert just to be absolutely certain of her parentage
Title: Re: Elizabeth Johnstone
Post by: nenepops on Tuesday 19 March 24 21:10 GMT (UK)
I got her being born Carlisle from my mother in law. It’s her grandmother.