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Title: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:09 GMT (UK)
I'm still looking for a John Mullaney born c1832 in Roscommon. This link contains a better option than the one I had before. I was advised that it was likely that John would have named his first child after his Father. I read this register as fathers name John. It now transpires that John the son named his first son John in Stockport after he emigrated to England in the very early 1850's. Unfortunately John died aged 0 soon after birth, which is why I missed it first time around. I am hoping that someone here can help me read the whole entry. I am looking at the 27th June 1832.

http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633944#page/96/mode/1up

Any advice, encouragement or help greatly appreciated with this one, especially the mothers name.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: josey on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:19 GMT (UK)
I see John de John Mullany & Cath F[G]uller[n] [sponsors names not immediately legible possibly Mr Mullany & Margt something - looks to start 'Fl' like the Flynn above].

Josey
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:25 GMT (UK)
I see John de John Mullany & Cath F[G]uller[n] [sponsors names not immediately legible possibly Mr Mullany & Margt something - looks to start 'Fl' like the Flynn above].

Josey

I'm struggling with the Mother's name. I think the male sponsor may be John Mullany.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: josey on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:27 GMT (UK)
2nd line down in snippet. Might mother's name begin with 'K', they look very florid in 2 lines below for a possible 'Keaney'...
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:31 GMT (UK)
The two central letters look like a double 'l' to me. If you compare the double 'l' in Mullany to what's in the mothers name, I can see a similarity there.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: josey on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:33 GMT (UK)
I agree, hence my first suggestion. I can also see it could be 'Fallon'  :-\
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:33 GMT (UK)
What about Keller?
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:37 GMT (UK)
I agree, hence my first suggestion. I can also see it could be 'Fallon'  :-\

I was thinking that it was Fallon.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:43 GMT (UK)
I've started to convince myself that it's Fallon too.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 03 January 17 13:59 GMT (UK)
Why not check for parents marriage? See if record is clearer
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:07 GMT (UK)
Why not check for parents marriage? See if record is clearer

I'm not sure where to look for the marriage, to be honest. Just finding my way in Irish records.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:16 GMT (UK)
Can't see anything for 27 June....
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:25 GMT (UK)
Did they marry in that church?

Marriages start 1825 http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0554
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:31 GMT (UK)
Did they marry in that church?

Marriages start 1825 http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0554

I honestly couldn't say. I am working backwards hoping to find something. If I was to get John Mullaney's English marriage cert would it give his father's name?
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:34 GMT (UK)
Yes an English marriage certificate would give his father's name.

Are you sure that this is the right parish in Ireland?
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:37 GMT (UK)
Yes an English marriage certificate would give his father's name.

Are you sure that this is the right parish in Ireland?

I may have to buy John Mullaney's marriage cert. I don't know where John's parents were married.

Right parish for what?
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:43 GMT (UK)

I may have to buy John Mullaney's marriage cert. I don't know where John's parents were married.

Right parish for what?

For John's birth.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 14:46 GMT (UK)

I may have to buy John Mullaney's marriage cert. I don't know where John's parents were married.

Right parish for what?

For John's birth.

On the 1881 census John gives his place of birth as Roscommon, Ireland. His wife gives hers as Mayo, Ireland. That is the information I am currently working from.
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: hol on Tuesday 03 January 17 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hello
Ive just read John mullaneys marriage certificate to ann duffey.its on an online tree.
Married at St Phillip and James in Edgeley Stockport. 21 oct 1852.
Johns father also John Labourer deceased.
Anns father Thomas Duffey also labourer.
Lee
Title: Re: Help Reading a Baptism Register
Post by: saw119 on Tuesday 03 January 17 15:35 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for that info. Doesn't move us much further forward sadly. As expected John's father is John. However, the information on Ann is new and helpful.