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Title: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: Grampy1 on Tuesday 03 January 17 20:30 GMT (UK)
Has any got any information on Abraham Clarke, one of my great great grandparents
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: PrawnCocktail on Tuesday 03 January 17 20:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Grampy,

Welcome to Rootschat!

Could you tell us what you already know about Abraham, and what it is that you are looking for?
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: Grampy1 on Wednesday 04 January 17 09:55 GMT (UK)
 He is My Great great grandfather on my mothers side. His wife is Elizabeth, I'm trying to find her maidan name.
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: dcbnwh on Wednesday 04 January 17 09:59 GMT (UK)
Looking at the census information and birth records, Abraham married Elizabeth, the daughter of John and Georgiana Warren, in Northampton district in Oct-Dec 1846.

1851 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTT-6RY (John is 1, not 7)

1861 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7GX-RQQ (Georgiana Warren is also with them)

1871 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD8N-32D

Georgiana and Elizabeth in 1841 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QC-TTD

Georgiana in 1851 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGY9-BWG with grandson William Warren Clarke.

David
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: PrawnCocktail on Wednesday 04 January 17 10:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Grampy,

It looks as if they didn't marry in an Anglican church, no sign of them in the parish registers.

I suspect it may have been a Register Office ceremony
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: middlesbrough on Wednesday 04 January 17 11:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,
From Northampton Mercury 24 Oct 1846


On the 21st at King St Chapel, by the Rev T Milner, Mr Abraham Clarke of Milton, to Elizabeth, second daughter of the late Mr John Warren, of this town.
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: seahall on Wednesday 04 January 17 12:50 GMT (UK)
Non conformist marriage then, what else do you need Grampy 1

Sandy
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: Grampy1 on Thursday 05 January 17 16:46 GMT (UK)
Thank's foryour help but I don't think it's the right Abraham Clarke. Mine had a daughter Suzannah Elizabeth born 12th Jan 1845, who married James Pink of Hampshire.
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 05 January 17 18:33 GMT (UK)
What is the occupation of Abraham on Susannah Elizabeth's marriage certificate?
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 05 January 17 18:54 GMT (UK)
 Hi and welcome,,,

 is this the family in 1861?

Abraham Clarke hd 45 m Blockmaker     Welton Northamptonshire
Elizabeth           wi m 48                     Warwickshire Priors Marston
Edwin               son in 24 labourer        Northants
Joseph             son in 21  Labourer       Warwickshire
 John               son in 18 labourer          Bethnal Green
 Charles           son in 13  scholar           Dorset
Henry              son in 10 scholar           Sussex
 Elizabeth        dau in 16 scholar            Northamptonshire
Hanah             dau in 9 scholar            Sussex

living Whites Row Icklesham SussexRG9/558 F134 P 7

Is this the marriage Warwickshire   Abraham Clarke of Welton Northamptonshire bach
                                                   Elizabeth Allard spinster otp
 4 March 1833  Harbury   Warwickshire

 Tazzie
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 05 January 17 19:02 GMT (UK)
A Susannah Elizabeth CLARK was born in Thrapston Registration District first Q of 1845, there are no others born in Northamptonshire

Modified to add mothers maiden name ALLARD (GRO index)
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 05 January 17 19:03 GMT (UK)

 Just found a baptism for
 Elizabeth Allard in  Priors Marston 1811 10 March Father Thomas mother Charlotte

 Abraham Clarke bap 26 Nov 1815 Welton to Abraham & Susannah    -shoemaker
   

Tazzie
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: PrawnCocktail on Thursday 05 January 17 19:05 GMT (UK)

Is this the marriage Warwickshire   Abraham Clarke of Welton Northamptonshire bach
                                                   Elizabeth Allard spinster otp
 4 March 1833  Harbury   Warwickshire

I think it must be, Tazzie. Susanna Elizabeth's mmn is given as Allard on the new GRO index

And in the 1891 Census, Abraham and Elizabeth are living with Susanna Elizabeth in Hampshire, and Abraham's place of birth is given as Welton. Strangely, he is listed as Hayward Clarke? they are also living with the Pink family in 1881.

There is a baptism of an Abraham Clarke in Welton, on 26 Nov 1815, to Abraham and Susannah Clarke, shoemaker

Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 05 January 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
 Hi

  Keep forgetting the new gro!  In 1851 Abraham is a foreman of railway works and they are in Mountfield Sussex. She is shown as Elizabeth on that one. It all makes sense then when added up.

 Tazzie
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: seahall on Friday 06 January 17 10:28 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year Cus (Tazzie) and Marilyn.  :)

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Thank's foryour help but I don't think it's the right Abraham Clarke. Mine had a daughter Suzannah Elizabeth born 12th Jan 1845, who married James Pink of Hampshire.

It all seems to tally with Grampy's extra info.

1881 Census   Class RG11 Piece: 1171 Folio: 95 Page: 13 Dist 13, Wickham
Welbs Land Farm   
1. James Pink, Head, Mar, 37, Farmer Of 316 Acres Employs 7 Men And 3 Boys,Wickham         
2. Elizabeth Pink, Wife, Mar, 36, Northamptonshire 
3. Weseley Pink, Son,  14, Scholar,  Holland         
4. Martha Pink, Dau, 10, Scholar, Fareham         
5. Louisa Pink, Dau,  9, Scholar, Fareham         
6. James Pink, Son, 7, Scholar, Fareham         
7. Charles Pink, Son,  5, Scholar, Fareham         
8. Henry Pink, Son, 3, Wickham         
Page 14
9. Abraham Clarke, Mar, 66, W's Father, Northamptonshire   
10. Eliza Clarke, Wife, Mar, 69, 1812, Warwickshire   
11. Maria Davies,  Servant,  Unm,  14, Domestic Servant, Fareham         
 
Sandy



Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: tazzie on Friday 06 January 17 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandy

 Happy New Year to you too cousin.
Haven't been on so much as busy at work but keep popping in . Hope you are all well.
 Looks like we've filled in the gaps with this family.

Best wishes
Tazzie

Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: smudwhisk on Friday 06 January 17 15:28 GMT (UK)
Is this the marriage Warwickshire   Abraham Clarke of Welton Northamptonshire bach
                                                   Elizabeth Allard spinster otp
 4 March 1833  Harbury   Warwickshire

Harbury isn't far from the Northants/Warwickshire border.
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: Grampy1 on Friday 06 January 17 16:13 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all your replies I think Abraham Clarke marrying Elizabeth Allard 4th March 1833 looks promising.
Title: Re: Abraham Clarke,Milton Malsor Northampton. Born 1815
Post by: Grampy1 on Saturday 07 January 17 17:37 GMT (UK)
I can now conclude that my great great grandfather Abraham Clarke was born in Welton and married Elizabeth Allard in1833 at Harbury Warwickshire. Elizabeth Allard is the final maiden name I required fo r all my great great grandparents. Many thanks to all who commented on this subject.