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Title: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Wednesday 04 January 17 19:32 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post - Can anyone help with finding some travel records for George Benjamin Marden b1862 Middlesex? I believe I have him going to New South Wales in 1882 but he definitely came back! I have been told he travelled a lot (probably until soon before his death in 1908) can anyone spot anything?
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 04 January 17 20:05 GMT (UK)
Is this his marriage

June qtr 1885
Hinds    Alice Mary W       
MARDEN    George Benjamin   (Father Marshall Marden)    
Edmonton    3a   376
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: coombs on Wednesday 04 January 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
A George S Marden born 1862, a foreman, arrived from New York to Southampton on the 18th December 1901, aged 39, so born c1862. The transcript says his middle initial is S but the original looks more like a B.
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 04 January 17 20:14 GMT (UK)
If I have the right marriage the family in 1901 Eastbourne

George Marden   38 bn Tottenham occ Turf Commision agent
Alice M Marden     33 bn Finsbury Park
George F Marden   14
Edith S Marden   12
Alice H Marden    9
Marshall Marden   5
Harry W Marden   2
Children all born Tottenham

Family still in Sussex after his 1908 death
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Wednesday 04 January 17 21:52 GMT (UK)
Yes indeed that's all correct I know about the family I'm just looking into his travelling. I do not believe they travelled with him with exception possibly of his wife? Im pretty sure the 1882 record I mentioned is him as I think it mentions (cannot read column heading) Marshall and Susan who were his parents. Any opinions on this? But can anyone see him coming back into the country? He married in London in 1885.
I wondered about the 1901 record Coombs. I am led to believe he earned a living working in some exotic locations.
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 04 January 17 22:20 GMT (UK)
As you did not give the information I posted the marriage and census information so that anyone looking for you could see that he did marry and have children but there were no children being born out of the country.  :)
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 04 January 17 22:28 GMT (UK)
A George S Marden born 1862, a foreman, arrived from New York to Southampton on the 18th December 1901, aged 39, so born c1862. The transcript says his middle initial is S but the original looks more like a B.

The middle initial does not look like the B for surname Ballard a few lines up.  It does however look like the S in the surname  Styllingsted 17 names from the top

Where are you viewing the 1882 record
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Wednesday 04 January 17 22:58 GMT (UK)
not sure I can say? A***y
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 January 17 07:33 GMT (UK)
not sure I can say? A***y

Yes you can say  :)   Sorry I can't see that record
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: coombs on Thursday 05 January 17 16:17 GMT (UK)
Yes it is Ancestry. I typed in George Marden born 1862 (5 years either side) and that result came up in passenger lists.
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 January 17 16:28 GMT (UK)
Is that an ancestry UK sub or world wide
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Thursday 05 January 17 16:55 GMT (UK)
Sorry uk sub I don't have ancestry worldwide I wondered if there might be more records on that though
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 January 17 16:59 GMT (UK)
Yes it is Ancestry. I typed in George Marden born 1862 (5 years either side) and that result came up in passenger lists.

I am obviously doing something wrong as the only result I get by doing that is the 1901 passage, I can't seem to get the 1882 one.  Never mind.

ADDED
I can see a possible entry on FindMyPast for 1882 but need a world sub to view it  ::)
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: coombs on Thursday 05 January 17 18:16 GMT (UK)
No it was from 1901 that passenger list as I stated in my first reply. This George S Marden was 39. I think the OP wanted any passenger lists not just 1882.
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Thursday 05 January 17 18:35 GMT (UK)
Yes that's right I believe he travelled quite a lot and I have told so did Alice his wife (not necessarily together) but I cannot see anything for her
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 06 January 17 08:49 GMT (UK)
Sorry Coombs I was asking about the 1882 record,  I have already commented on that 1901 record that I do not believe is him.

He was still at home with his parents in 1881 occ Brcklayer.
1882 he travelled on assisted immigration to Australia occ Bricklayer
1885 he was back in England to marry Alice. Where was Alice prior to this as it may show where George was. 

Where were the children staying when Alice went away.

It may be worth a specific look up request for George leaving Australia between 1882 & 1885 on the Australia boards and to see if he is mentioned over there during that period.
Title: Re: Travel records
Post by: Meelystar on Friday 06 January 17 10:15 GMT (UK)
In 1881 Alice Hinds b1866 st Pancras was in Islington parents listed as Edmund (should be Edward) and Cecilia. However the family had travelled out to Canada previously. There is a thread about Alice's father Edward.
The daughter of Alice and George's first daughter (b1888) told me that her mother was left with George's mother Susan in Tottenham when she was very young, presumably my Great Grandfather (b1886) was also left with her.