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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: bugbear on Monday 09 January 17 09:00 GMT (UK)
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I just got an email from Ancestry subject "Are you your family's sherlock?" essentially asking me to help other Ancestry members with their research.
"On our Facebook page we’re posting family mysteries that have unravelled and need solving. You can help by responding with new leads on where to continue the search on Ancestry. "
It appears that Ancestry wants me to provide unpaid labour that they will doubtless advertise as a feature of their service.
Even worse, when I follow their link, I just end up at their basic Facebook page, where (as far as I can see) no mysteries have been posted.
So - at least their slave labour scheme isn't working. :)
In terms of genealogists helping each other for free, I'll stay on the best free, public site - ROOTSCHAT!
BugBear
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Their ProGenealogist expert service needs a helping hand then?
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I think they've sent it to all subscribers. I don't do Facebook! Perhaps someone who does could post suggesting that there are a number of existing well respected free sites such as Roots Chat who are already available to help with people's family history brick walls.
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I was puzzled about that email as well. As you say, the link appears just to take you to their FaceBook pages, where all the chat seems to be about DNA testing and moans about people not sharing their trees.
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Anything using the word "Facebook" goes straight in the bin. Judging by the number of emails I'm invaded by, Ancestry is clearly struggling to sell their DNA.
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I also clicked the link and could find nothing about this Sherlock item
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I got that email too. I didn't click on the link, as I have better things to do than go on Facebook (like visiting Rootschat :D)
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Well I've had a gander and there is a mystery there, I'm not on FB but I can see some of the page and and a great big box asking me to join
CASE 1: The Mysterious Disappearance of Robert McKay
claire
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Looks like the mail shot pre-dated putting up the first case.
Idiots!
BugBear
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It would appear they don't like me, as I have not received any such email :'( :'(
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"On our Facebook page we’re posting family mysteries that have unravelled and need solving. You can help by responding with new leads on where to continue the search on Ancestry. "
It appears that Ancestry wants me to provide unpaid labour that they will doubtless advertise as a feature of their service.
;D Hmm, Bugbear ??? ;D ;D
Do they not advertise with a slogan along the lines of....Just type in your family name to find your ancestors ::)
Looks like their slogan has been found to be UNTRUE :P
So now it looks like they are headhunting genealogy addicts to promote themselves with as you say 'unpaid labour' :o
They've shot themselves in the foot as far as I can see as there are many things which were on their uk site which were viewable but now needs a higher priced sub or a separate cost/sub?
Instead of putting their prices up, they need to speculate to accumulate i.e. reduce subs or make them all worldwide at a decent price & everyone would be happy.
"In terms of genealogists helping each other for free, I'll stay on the best free, public site - ROOTSCHAT!"
Love it!!!
Annie
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It would appear they don't like me, as I have not received any such email :'( :'(
Probably in alphabetical order so time yet to receive your personal 'invitation' ;D
Annie
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Don't like me either AC.
Claire there is no mystery disappearance of Robert McKay. He is my cousin and I know exactly where he is. ;D
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They obviously don't like me either!! ;D > ;D.
Do I care?? Yeah - Nah!!
What a cheek they have!! 👎👎👎
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They've shot themselves in the foot as far as I can see as there are many things which were on their uk site which were viewable but now needs a higher priced sub or a separate cost/sub?
What do you believe has been removed from the uk site? I haven't noticed anything not available that I've always used, but there again maybe I had no recourse to look at them in the first place.
Simon
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Latest on Facebook - Ancestry Sherlock-related post:
"Benedict Cumberbatch related to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle"
Click the link and it turns out they're 16th cousins, both descended from John of Gaunt. Yeah, them and about a million others. Puh-lease!
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What do you believe has been removed from the uk site? I haven't noticed anything not available that I've always used, but there again maybe I had no recourse to look at them in the first place.
Not sure if it's just me, but it seems that military records, which used to be included, now are on 'fold3' which you have to subscribe to.
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What do you believe has been removed from the uk site? I haven't noticed anything not available that I've always used, but there again maybe I had no recourse to look at them in the first place.
Not sure if it's just me, but it seems that military records, which used to be included, now are on 'fold3' which you have to subscribe to.
A quick check, for an ancestor I've previoiusly downloaded military records for, shows the records still available on my sub.
I have a "premium" 12 month subscription to ancestry UK. I note that and "essential" scubscription would not give you access to military records (or parish records, come to that).
BugBear
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I was looking at an Ancestry tree which included my 3xgreat grandfather. On the owner's profile it says he's willing to help others. Problem is that the "mother " dies 200 years before he is born.
Is that the sort of "help" they want, or will expect us to pay for!!
rayard.
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What do you believe has been removed from the uk site? I haven't noticed anything not available that I've always used, but there again maybe I had no recourse to look at them in the first place.
Not sure if it's just me, but it seems that military records, which used to be included, now are on 'fold3' which you have to subscribe to.
Yes Josey, that's one of them
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Immigration & Travel have had changes since then.
There were others & I can't remember now as I changed mine to worldwide a lot of years ago because of the changes but don't have worldwide now.
Annie
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Hi, I think that most of you must have missed the Ancestry mailshot around late Nov/early Dec last year which suggested that if you had a brickwall you just couldn't solve then to load the info on their Ancestry Facebook page and they would try and resolve it for you over the Christmas period.
I must admit I was taken in by this and posted details of a brickwall, that I have already posted here, thinking that the professionals at Ancestry were turning their hands to some detective work.
However, I assume that what is actually happening, is that they are now simply reposting some of the mysteries that were posted then in the hope that others who see their Facebook page will take up the challenge rather than Ancestry themselves. In other words trying to create something like this forum.
Pheno
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I wonder whether they will be less enthusiastic about their new venture if the mysteries are mainly solved by reference to F M P records ;D
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;D ;D ;D
As to the fold3 records, I do have a worldwide subs but couldn't access the fold3 ones.
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;D ;D ;D
As to the fold3 records, I do have a worldwide subs but couldn't access the fold3 ones.
I don't understand what "fold3" is. All the military records (including service records, medals, pension details) that I have come straight from ancestry.co.uk, via normal searching.
Can someone explain?
BugBear
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;D ;D ;D
As to the fold3 records, I do have a worldwide subs but couldn't access the fold3 ones.
I don't understand what "fold3" is. All the military records (including service records, medals, pension details) that I have come straight from ancestry.co.uk, via normal searching.
Can someone explain?
BugBear
I think this goes to Fold3 - other marine records I tried certainly have
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j9d/
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It now appears to go back to TNA web site. I know that at one point recently I was trying to look at this record and it was telling me I needed a sub to Fold 3. I have just checked the other Royal Marine record that I was trying to look at and that is also now going bact to TNA.
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;D ;D ;D
As to the fold3 records, I do have a worldwide subs but couldn't access the fold3 ones.
I don't understand what "fold3" is. All the military records (including service records, medals, pension details) that I have come straight from ancestry.co.uk, via normal searching.
Can someone explain?
BugBear
I think this goes to Fold3 - other marine records I tried certainly have
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j9d/
It's a link to the National Archive site. :)
BugBear
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This goes to fold3 which then asks for membership. My Ancestry worldwide subs login details do not access the site.
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;D ;D ;D
As to the fold3 records, I do have a worldwide subs but couldn't access the fold3 ones.
I don't understand what "fold3" is. All the military records (including service records, medals, pension details) that I have come straight from ancestry.co.uk, via normal searching.
Can someone explain?
BugBear
I think this goes to Fold3 - other marine records I tried certainly have
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j9d/
It's a link to the National Archive site. :)
BugBear
I have just added this to my other post
It now appears to go back to TNA web site. I know that at one point recently I was trying to look at this record and it was telling me I needed a sub to Fold 3. I have just checked the other Royal Marine record that I was trying to look at and that is also now going back to TNA.
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I think I had one of the fold3 referrals from Ancestry a few weeks ago but found that the info was available on FindMyPast.
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This goes to fold3 which then asks for membership. My Ancestry worldwide subs login details do not access the site.
Ah - it's one of Ancestry's new "external" indexes, so not a "restricted ancestry data set".
(they also do indexes to free external sites e.g. findagrave). The restriction/charge in this case is by fold3, not Ancestry.
Thank you.
BugBear
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I think fold 3 is an American site which specialises in military records. Ancestry purchased it and by having a basic index on their main site and a web link to it, it seems to me that they are basically trying to entice you into forking out another sub.
William
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I think I had one of the fold3 referrals from Ancestry a few weeks ago but found that the info was available on FindMyPast.
I also found that when I got those fold3 referrals they were the same as those on FindMyPast. In the case of those two I already had a copy of them that I had got from Kew a few years ago on a huge sheet of paper copied straight from the book. ;D
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I also found that when I got those fold3 referrals they were the same as those on FindMyPast. In the case of those two I already had a copy of them that I had got from Kew a few years ago on a huge sheet of paper copied straight from the book. ;D
The same with me fortunately; I agree with William that it is another route for ancestry to obtain additional subs. The records used to be available & are now not - we DIDN'T get an email shot about that, as I remember >:(.