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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: ukghostinvestigators on Monday 09 January 17 22:43 GMT (UK)
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Dear all, great site its has been most useful thus far!
We have a paranormal investigation booked at the house in the near future and as the groups researcher im trying to find as many names of people who lived, worked and deaths at the house as possible to verify our findings.
Any help would be much appreciated so thank you in advance.
Regards
Alan
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FindMyPast has an address search facility on census records
There are many electoral register websites with records from 2002. Records prior to then can be obtained from the manual electoral registers available at the main library in the area
Deaths can be searched for on many of the subscription sites - FindMyPast, Ancestry etc etc
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FindMyPast has an address search facility on census records
If you are going to search the censuses by address then it was not called Shuttleworth House. In 1881, 1891, and 1911 it is just called "Mansion" in 1901 "Warden Mansion"
Stan
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The present mansion house was only completed about 1880. The Swiss garden pre-dates it and is said to be haunted.
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The Swiss Garden at Shuttleworth was created between 1824 and 1832. The House was built in 1875. http://www.shuttleworth.org/the-house/
Stan
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In 1841 the House (predecessor of the Shuttleworth Mansion) is just listed as "Park". It is in Warden District 20 in the enumeration schedule. Ancestry transcribes Ongley as Dingley.
Lord Ongley, his mother and what are probably his siblings (no relationships given) and 14 house servants.
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In 1851, it looks as if Warden Park was let, the family living there are called Russell from the East Indies. Most of their servants aren't locals. Warden enumeration district 9b.
Can't find Lord Ongley (Robert 3rd Baron Ongley), But Hon George (Henley-) Ongley (one of his brothers) is at Mount Pleasant - a property on the Estate
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The 1859 poll book has Lord Robert Henley Ongley listed as an unpolled voter (whatever that means). Warden Park is listed as address, not sure if he actually resided there or it was because he owned the property. His listing is below but separate from that of other Warden voters. The Hon George H O is listed with the other Warden residents - he is still at Mount Pleasant in 1861.
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This is all great information so far thanks guys. This is what I have found so far.
Sir Samuel Ongley died 1726
Samuel Ongley died 1747
Robert Henley-Ongley died 1785
Robert Henley Ongley 2nd Baron died 1814 of gout
Robert Henley Ongley 3rd Baron died 1877
1872 Old Warden Park was sold by Robert, 3rd Baron Ongley to Joseph Shuttleworth but let to Henry Browning when tenancy was over in 1875 Joseph Shuttleworth demolished it and built the present mansion on the site. It was designed by the Duke of Bedford's favourite architect, Henry Clutton
Joseph Shuttleworth died 1883
Colonel Frank Shuttleworth died 1913
Brigadier-General William McClaren Campbell died 1924 in Brussels
Richard Ormonde Shuttleworth died 1940 - killed in a night flying exercise whilst serving with the RAF
Dorothy Clotilda died 1968, aged 89
During the Second World War, the house was a Red Cross convalescent home and auxiliary hospital for airmen
July 1st 2012 Trevor Roche, 52, from Wiltshire, was killed when the 1923 De Havilland DH53 Humming Bird crashed at Old Warden Aerodrome
1815 Charles Dines gamekeeper, brutally murdered by a gang of around seven poachers near Southill Lake
1836
John Stonebridge gamekeeper
Samuel Butcher his assistant
1837+
Richard Long Aireton age 25 servent
1851
george.e.russell age 64 head. occ. late of east india co. civil service.
caroline russell age 55 wife.
jane.l.russell age 31 daughter.
caroline.m.a.russell age 28 daughter.
edward.g.russell age 22 nephew.
leonard russell age 70
george gare age 36 coachman.
george jennings age 21. b. warwickshire. occ. footman.
mary luter age 35. b. herefordshire. occ. housemaid.
giles parker age 30. b. wiltshire. occ. butler.
martha parker age 18. b. london. occ. under housemaid.
ann rennie age 31. b. cumberland. occ. ladies maid.
emma thompson age 41. b. exeter. occ. housekeeper.
susan wilson age 23. b. bedfordshire. occ. kitchenmaid.
1861
Joseph Stokes age 8 Scarecrow
George Scott age 8 Scarecrow
John Wiltshire, age 9 Scarecrow
George Spring, age 10 twitch gatherer
Charles Tanqueray????
1871
sarah hopkins age 67 laundress. head.
maria george age 47 domestic servant.
elizabeth davidson age 37 laundress.
jane monk age 25 laundress.
richard ellis age 22 groom.
Ann Payne age 30 Housekeeper Dom Serv
Mary Ann Payne age 27 Dom Serv
John Nottingham age 21 Groom
George Burrage, age 9 field keeper
Charles Nottingham age 9 farm boy
James Scott age thirteen kitchen boy.
1881
phylis white age 61 housekeeper
thomas bell age 27 1st footman.
lilli mither age 24 housemaid.
eliza thomas age 21 kitchenmaid.
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Swiss Garden
A dog cemetery was created with some 14 headstones belonging to the family’s beloved pets, on which the names are still visible.
Stone Cross marks a grave
One legend is that Lord Ongley had a Swiss girlfriend, and he built the garden for her which included a Swiss
Cottage. She became ill after being caught in a heavy shower in the garden and later died.
Another legend is that Lord Ongley's Swiss girlfriend had a son who died of pneumonia aged 9.
Grey Lady? Possibly ties to Swiss girlfriend
The Swiss Garden was in a dilapidated condition as the number of gardeners had been reduced during the war. Mrs Shuttleworth returned from gardening down there one day and was adamant that she had seen the ghost - the 'grey lady' who had come near her as she was weeding a flower bed. The condition of the garden encouraged the idea that it was haunted. It is also said that the stone cross was removed by the gardeners, but they were haunted with the sounds of voices so they returned the stone and the voices stopped.
1841
mary nind age 73. born out of county
eliza barnes age 19. occ. independent means. born in county.
1851
hannah palliser age 58 keeper of swiss cottage
Recent history
The most hair-raising event occurred at Hill House when one of the students, an ex-Commando, went berserk one night and went for another student with a knife. Staff knew nothing about this until next morning but ex-service students at Hill House dealt with him. They rang friends in the mansion to seek a bed for the potential victim and then endeavored to knock out the raving student! When he came into breakfast the following morning he certainly looked the worse for wear! He later became the subject of a police inquiry. He was the brother of an identical twin who had died from an infection as a child and from that time had gone off the rails on occasions. His arm was scarred with attempts he had made to commit suicide and the sound of bells set him going!
Sadly his girl friend jilted him just when he was about to leave Shuttleworth and within weeks he had married a waitress from a Biggleswade restaurant. They had a daughter. He then had one of his 'turns' and attempted to commit suicide and was put on probation. One night, after visiting the pub, he returned home and murdered his wife with a hammer. His daughter might have been killed too but he changed his mind at the last minute. He was sent to Broadmoor and I have heard no more. He was the most notorious of Shuttleworth students and I have deliberately omitted his name out of respect for his daughter and former friends.
Another student, Pengelley-Phillips, an ex-Royal Marine, was with a party that visited the Hare and Hounds one evening and, in the middle of the night, I was woken by the sound of someone calling 'Help!' I recognised his voice and went to his bedroom on the top floor of the mansion. The handle had been removed but the night porter had come with me and he found a screwdriver so that we could get in. There were five beds in that room and one was empty! I aroused the others and we started a search for the missing student. We even went on the roof and it was from there, looking over the parapet, that I saw Pengelley-Phillips lying on the grass below an open window. It was obvious that he fallen out while relieving himself. We called an ambulance and I accompanied him to the Bedford Hospital. He had broken his back and, sadly, was incapacitated for life.
Louis Pengelly-Phillips Died July 2014 aged 89 sergeant in ww2
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Wow, you have a lot. Nothing of note happened in the two years I was a student at Shuttleworth college. I remember seeing the dogs graves, but think that was just outside the Swiss garden, near where the (now moved) Bird of prey centre got set up..
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From Beds Archives... who you gonna call ?....
http://bedsarchives.bedford.gov.uk/CommunityArchives/OldWarden/TheOngleyFamily.aspx
http://bedsarchives.bedford.gov.uk/CommunityArchives/OldWarden/ShuttleworthFamily.aspx
http://bedsarchives.bedford.gov.uk/CommunityArchives/OldWarden/SwissGardens.aspx