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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: My Irish Connection on Wednesday 11 January 17 08:15 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for relatives of my grandfather William Price DOB 18.2.1878 born in Magheragall Anterim Northern Ireland. He went to South Africa and died in 1928. His parents were Thomas Price and Catherine Campbell. I am planning a trip to Ireland some time this year and would like to meet some of my mother's relatives.
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Hopefully a moderator will pop along soon and move your thread to the Antrim board. Folks there will try and help. Meantime, have you already found him in 1901/1911 census (assuming, that is, he hadn't left Ireland by that time - perhaps he had, I am only seeing a John Price in Magheragall at 1901)? When did he head to SA?
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Familysearch suggests he potentially had at least the following brother:
Joseph 31/8/1879
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Probable marriage for Thomas and Catherine in 1871. This should be available to view online, for a small charge, via GRONI.
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Re Thomas and Catherine, albeit not in Magheragall, the following might be worth considering, even if only to eliminate:
1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballygomartin/Ballydownfine/988856/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor/Tate_s_Avenue/154444/
At 1911, this couple are noted as having had 10 children (9 living), so obviously by 1901, some of the older ones are elsewhere.
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I am looking for relatives of my grandfather William Price DOB 18.2.1878 born in Magheragall Anterim Northern Ireland. He went to South Africa and died in 1928. His parents were Thomas Price and Catherine Campbell. I am planning a trip to Ireland some time this year and would like to meet some of my mother's relatives.
Birth certificate for William Price shows that his father Thomas was a bricklayer-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092268.pdf
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Makes the census entries seem even stronger possibility to be same family then, given occupations of that Thomas and son Samuel.
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So far-
Thomas Price m. Catherine Campbell
1. Anne Price (1872 Lurganure)- father Greenock (mason), an Ann Campbell registered birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2192006.pdf
2. Sarah Price (1873 Scotland) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQQ5-GX5
3. William Price (1878 Magheragall)
4. Joseph Price (1879 Magheragall)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02911/2066642.pdf
Daughter Sarah married (23 Feb.1900) George Jefferson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10332/5761526.pdf
? George Jefferson died 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05681/4601047.pdf
Sarah Jefferson died 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05181/4430616.pdf
Belfast City Cemetery records show Sarah Jefferson in plot (D 505) of a George Jefferson who died 1917-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6165.43471
Sarah Jefferson, age 45, died Royal Victoria Hospital, residence Warrington, England
George Jefferson, age 50, 93 Bewsey St Warrington Liverpool, died 19 Apr.1917
They are likely in England at time of 1901 and 1911 census
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George and Sarah Jefferson look to have been in Stoke on Trent in 1911, with one daughter, Kathleen. His occupation is noted as 'Medical man'.
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We can't give details of 1911 census (other than what's available in free searches) but this looks like Sarah Jefferson & family-
George- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7S-J5X
Sarah- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7S-J5F
daughter Kathleen age 10 born Todminster, Yorkshire- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7S-J5N
Annie Kathleen E. Jefferson, Jan./Mar.1901 Todmorden, Yorkshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FZ3-XRL
Confirmed by 1901 census-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PZ-JBX
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Hi,
Thomas Price and Catherine Campbell married on 31 Jul 1871 in Magheragall Church of Ireland, Lisburn District. The fathers' names were John Price and Thomas Campbell.
Regards
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More children-
5. Elizabeth Price (1884 Belfast) m.(1911) John Cherry Graham
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02727/2003118.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09954/5619229.pdf
6. Henry Price (1885 Belfast-aft.1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02628/1969610.pdf
7. Samuel Price (1887 Belfast) m.(1915) Sarah Beattie
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02552/1944306.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09807/5560999.pdf
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George Jefferson unfortunately died from what appears to have been an accidental overdose. Coroner recorded 'death from misadventure'. He had apparently been having trouble sleeping and took medicine to aid with this.
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George Jefferson unfortunately died from what appears to have been an accidental overdose. Coroner recorded 'death from misadventure'. He had apparently been having trouble sleeping and took medicine to aid with this.
Strange when compared to Sarah Jefferson's cause of death :-\
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John Cher(r)y Graham died 1959-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8637.1134
wife Elizabeth died 1946-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8359.3743
daughter? Joan (c1916-1929)-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8195.6857
Graham Elizabeth of 48 Marlborough Park Belfast married woman died 4 August 1946 Probate Belfast 29 October to Hugh Graham D.Sc. Gentleman and Anna M. Graham B.A. spinster. Effects £721 4s. 11d.
Graham, John Cherry of 48 Marlborough Park North Belfast retired linen warehouseman died 3 November 1959 at 51 Lisburn Road Belfast Probate Belfast 11 March to John Kenneth Graham chartered architect. Effects £2957 3s. 9d.
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Sadly, Joan Katherine Graham was run over and killed. She had just got off a tram and was on her way to school. The lorry driver was found guilty of manslaughter.
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There seem to have been a few tragic and/or early deaths in the wider family circle.
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How sad, scotmum :'(
Thomas Price m. Catherine Campbell
1. Anna Price (1872)
2. Sarah Price (1873-1918) m. George Jefferson (d.1917)
1. Annie Kathleen E. Jefferson (1901 Yorkshire-aft.1911)
3. William Price (1878)
4. Joseph Price (1879)
5. James Price (1881)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02832/2038367.pdf
6. Elizabeth Price (1884 Belfast) m.(1911) John Cherry Graham
1. Joan Katherine Graham (c1916-1929)
7. Henry Price (1885 Belfast-aft.1901)
8. Samuel Price (1887 Belfast) m.(1915) Sarah Beattie
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Directories are now helping fill in a bit more
This son of Thomas & Catherine makes 9 children found (see 1911 census)-
Thomas Price (c1875 Glasgow-1949) m.(1899) Agnes Donaldson (d.1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10387/5782190.pdf (witness Joseph Price)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor/Edinburgh_Street/966023
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor/Edinburgh_Street/153518
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05367/4496886.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6295.46089
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7125.5068
Price Thomas of 67 Stockman's Lane Belfast builders foreman died 28 December 1949 Probate Belfast 9 February to William Charles Price port sanitary officer and John Bunting butcher. Effects £777 16s. 2d.
1. Eveline Maud (1899-1900)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02010/1772360.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05755/4625606.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6389.16518
2. William Charles (1900-1959)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01968/1758803.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8631.726
3. Thomas (1902-1922)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01914/1742090.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6197.881
4. John Donaldson (1904)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01808/1708428.pdf
5. Albert Ernest (1906)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01732/1684711.pdf
6. Agnes Donaldson (1908) m. ___ Walmsley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01658/1661270.pdf
7. Irene Ethel (1909)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01595/1641153.pdf
8. Edith May (1911-1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01532/1621025.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05367/4496888.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6295.46131
Thomas Price m.2 (1916) Mary "Minnie" Fisher (d.1948)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09776/5548301.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7125.5068
Price Minnie of Ivy Grove Stockmans Lane Belfast married woman died 10 June 1948 Administration Belfast 15 July to Agnes Donaldson Walmsley married woman. Effects £139 4s. 6d.
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1908- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1908nopq.htm
Price, Thomas, builder, 34 Edinburgh Street; res., Campbelton, Stockman's Lane
Price, Thomas, jun., builder, Ivy Grove, Stockman's Lane
1910- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910nopq.htm
Price, Thomas, builder, 34 Edinburgh Street
Price, T., brick layer, 58 Edinburgh Street
Price, T., builder, Campbelton, Stockman's Lane
1918- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/BSD1918.htm
Price, Thos., builder, Ivy Grove, Stockman's Lane
1924- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1924BSD/1924strs%200318.jpg
Price, Thos., builder, Ivy Grove, Stockman's Lane
1932- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1932.htm
same as 1924
1943- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1943.htm
Ivy Grove Price, Thos., clerk of works
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Yes he did have a brother, my Uncle Joe who was also in South Africa. Not sure when William went to SA. I have just started looking so will check out those places suggested. Many thanks... Sydney
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Hello
Headstone in Magheragall Parish,
Erected By
Thomas G Price
In loving Memory of
His mother, father and brother
Anna Price who died 24th December 1879
Aged 74 years
John Price who died 13th February 1884
Aged 82 years
John V Price who died 18th December 1915
Aged 71
yours
magheragall
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Directories are now helping fill in a bit more
This son of Thomas & Catherine makes 9 children found (see 1911 census)-
Thomas Price (c1875 Glasgow-1949) m.(1899) Agnes Donaldson (d.1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10387/5782190.pdf (witness Joseph Price)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor/Edinburgh_Street/966023
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor/Edinburgh_Street/153518
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05367/4496886.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6295.46089
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7125.5068
Price Thomas of 67 Stockman's Lane Belfast builders foreman died 28 December 1949 Probate Belfast 9 February to William Charles Price port sanitary officer and John Bunting butcher. Effects £777 16s. 2d.
1. Eveline Maud (1899-1900)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02010/1772360.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05755/4625606.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6389.16518
2. William Charles (1900-1959)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01968/1758803.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8631.726
3. Thomas (1902-1922)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01914/1742090.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6197.881
4. John Donaldson (1904)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01808/1708428.pdf
5. Albert Ernest (1906)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01732/1684711.pdf
6. Agnes Donaldson (1908) m. ___ Walmsley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01658/1661270.pdf
7. Irene Ethel (1909)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01595/1641153.pdf
8. Edith May (1911-1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01532/1621025.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05367/4496888.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6295.46131
Thomas Price m.2 (1916) Mary "Minnie" Fisher (d.1948)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09776/5548301.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7125.5068
Price Minnie of Ivy Grove Stockmans Lane Belfast married woman died 10 June 1948 Administration Belfast 15 July to Agnes Donaldson Walmsley married woman. Effects £139 4s. 6d.
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To grandson of William Price wishing to contact relatives. I am one such person.
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I am great grandson of Thomas and Catherine Price of Stockmans Lane,
Belfast. I have information regarding
this family which may be of interest
to the originator of this post.