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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: PaulFincken on Thursday 12 January 17 14:23 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for the birth of Alice Steel, or any census information. I have details to show she was born in Whitby around 1882.
Many Thanks
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Would this be Alice's birth? -
Name: Alice Leadley Steel
q1 1883, Whitby
Vol 9d Page 473
If so there is no mother's maiden name recorded on the GRO website ???
JJ
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There is a marriage of an Alice Steel
q3 1883, Whitby
Vol 9d Page 640
It would appear that she married Joseph Beha
1891 -
John Beha 30
Alice Beha 25
Alice Beha 8 b. Whitby, Yorkshire (This could be the Alice Steel you are researching)
Hannah Beha 6
John W Beha 3
RG12 Piece 3994 Folio 38 Page 10
There is no birth record for an Alice Beha.
JJ
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Thank you.....it could be the Alice L Steel born in Whitby 1883. Steel is her maiden name, would assume in a census record she would show up as Steel.
Hopefully she will show up on the one of the census records
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The WW1 records for Thomas Albert Smith say he married Alice Beha on 28 July 1900 at West Hartlepool and had child MAry Lily on 1st Aug 1900
Is that the right family? (your other thread indicates it might be where you ask about a Thomas Smith marrying Alice Steel)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762842.new#new
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Not sure.....I am looking for the Thomas Smith and Alice Steel births to order their birth certificates etc
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Yes - but you need to be looking at the right family in order to find the right Thomas and Alice in order to get the right birth certs!!
DO the Thomas Smith and Alice that you are interested in have a daughter called Mary Lily, bn 1900?
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There is a marriage of an Alice Steel
q3 1900, Hartlepool
Vol 10a Page 267
On the same page is a Thomas Albert Smith
On Thomas Albert's Service record he records his marriage to Alice Beha Hartlepool 28 July 1900. One of the witnesses was Anna Beha.
Daughter Mary Lily born 1 Aug 1900, Hartlepool
So looking at the marriages that were recorded and declared I'm still of the opinion that Alice Steel and Alice Beha are the same person.
JJ
Added - Whoops sorry lizdb I see that you have already come to a similar conclusion :)
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Hi the Alice Ledley Steel was born 20th December 1882 baptism 27th December 1882 Whitby, St John the Evangelist Mother Alice
Keyboard86
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Birth record -
Mary Lillie Smith
q3 1900, Hartlepool
Vol 10a Page 184
MMN - Steel
JJ
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Interesting - as they had allegedly married a few days before Mary Lily was born, so would expect her to be Smith with mmn Steel or Beha
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Thank you.....this sounds like the correct information
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Interesting - as they had allegedly married a few days before Mary Lily was born, so would expect her to be Smith with mmn Steel or Beha
Typo - should have been Smith, have amended my post. Getting Steel and Smith mixed up!!
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There is a marriage in Whitby 3rd quarter 1883 Alice Steel on same page a Joseph Beha
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We had that in reply #2
Keep up slaw!!! ;D
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Sorry too much sun here in spain
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Sorry too much sun here in spain
You lucky person, we're expecting snow!!
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Hi the Joseph Baha/Alice Steel marriage:-
Joseph Baha 29 occ Rivetter residence Blackburns Yard Father Joseph occ Clockmaker
Alice Steel 19 residence The Cragg (same address as given in baptism for Alice Ledley Steel ) Father Richard Steel occ Fisherman
7th July 1883 Whitby, St Mary the Virgin
Keyboard86
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Sorry too much sun here in spain
You lucky person, we're expecting snow!!
Snowing here in the West Coast :). Slightly of topic :P
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I have found Alice's baptism and her mother's marriage to Joseph Beha on FindMyPast (see attached)
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Thank you....this could help me in my searches
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I found the baptisms of the other Beha children including a Joseph who died at 5 months
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Found a couple of articles in old newspapers, one regarding Alice (mother) in court in 1883 and the other is a photo of five generations of the family
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Wow. The newspaper stuff is amazing. Quite remarkable how the justice system worked in them days.
Thanks the info......will certainly prove useful
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Just has a real good chance to look at the picture in more detail.
This Alice Steel is definitely the right family - Lilt Forsyth is my dad's mam, and her mam was Alice Steel. She died in July 1938, 3 months after giving birth to my dad. He was adopted by the Finckens after her death.
This picture is the only one I know of showing Lily Forsyth. From the dates, she would have been pregnant with my dad.
I assume from the picture Lily Forsyth is back row on the right.
Cant believe this was found and helps paint a picture for some of my relatives.