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Title: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: mgraham1 on Friday 13 January 17 11:11 GMT (UK)
I am trying to work out the siblings of my grandfather Joel graham who lived in essex, was married to margaret gould

Now my auntie has said that he had siblings by the name of  Jim, Maurice, Bob, Edith and Aggie

and they lived at bridge farm chadwell

Whereas all i can find on the 1911 census

is siblings  james thomas (could be jim), myrus (could be maurice?), blanche edith (could be edith),  henry robert (could be bob) and theres a Ruth

no one seems to know a Ruth but there was definitely an Aggie

now there is a Ruth who died in 1919 so that may explain why no one knows of a Ruth, but people remember Aggie but she doesnt seem to be on a record anywhere

i have tried both Agnes and Agatha

If anyone can give me more details, i would be very grateful



Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 13 January 17 11:19 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth
Births Jun 1909   
GRAHAM    Joel    mothers maiden name Bauham   
Orsett    4a   645

Myrus Graham married Blanche Emma Banham in 1896 Gravesend RD

GRAHAM, ROBERT  HENRY     mmn BANHAM     
GRO Reference: 1900  Dec Quarter
STROOD  Volume 02A  Page 561
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 13 January 17 11:21 GMT (UK)
GRAHAM, RUTH       mmn BANHAM     
1899  March Quarter
ORSETT  4a 566

GRAHAM, EDITH  BLANCHE     mmn BANHAM     
1902  Sept Quarter
STROOD  02A  / 650

GRAHAM, MYRUS       mmn BANHAM     
1904  Sept Quarter in ORSETT  Volume 04A  Page 654 

GRAHAM, THOMAS  JAMES     mmn BANHAM     
1906  June Quarter in ORSETT  Volume 04A  Page 666

Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: lizdb on Friday 13 January 17 11:22 GMT (UK)
Rosie is one step ahead of me.

I had just found the marriage (Myrus Graham to Emma Blanche Banham) and was going to suggest you looked at the new gro website www.gro.gov.uk (you need to register but it is free) to find all the children with Graham surname and mothers maiden name of Banham.
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: lizdb on Friday 13 January 17 11:26 GMT (UK)
Also

Rosina R Graham mmn Banham
Oct/Nov/Dec 1911
Orsett
4a 1178

born after 1911 census. Maybe she was known as Aggie?
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 13 January 17 11:29 GMT (UK)
Perhaps the reason no one remembers Ruth
Deaths Mar 1919   
Graham    Ruth    age 20    Orsett    4a   763

Born 1899  March Quarter from my earlier post
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 13 January 17 15:23 GMT (UK)
Also

Rosina R Graham mmn Banham
Oct/Nov/Dec 1911
Orsett
4a 1178

born after 1911 census. Maybe she was known as Aggie?

Certainly worth considering

Middle name is Rebecca.  Sometimes people get pet names for no reason  :-\

Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: lizdb on Friday 13 January 17 15:40 GMT (UK)
Maybe not her

Death
March 1917
Orsett
4a 769
Rosina R Graham
age 5
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: lizdb on Friday 13 January 17 15:42 GMT (UK)
Eureka!!

Birth
Oct/Nov/Dec 1918
Orsett
4a 819
Agnes M Graham
mmn Benham       
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 13 January 17 15:48 GMT (UK)
Well done lizdb  ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: mgraham1 on Friday 13 January 17 18:01 GMT (UK)
Wow thank you all so much - its amazing what you dont know about your own family

never ever heard of a Rosina - no one has

ok on to myrus siblings and parents lol
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: lizdb on Friday 13 January 17 18:18 GMT (UK)
We are here if you get stuck!
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: mgraham1 on Friday 13 January 17 20:07 GMT (UK)
Ok i have  parents of Myrus being Robert Graham 1844 and Rebecca Lumb 1834

it says they both died in New Zealand - can i find info on when they went and why and when they died

myrus has Siblings  Jack 1868, Joel 1868, john thomas 1871, sam reuben 1875, james 1877,

how do i find the death dates  and  is there a jack and joel as twins or are the dates wrong

or did they also go to NZ and thats why i cant find death dates



Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: amondg on Saturday 14 January 17 07:49 GMT (UK)
Re: 1901 census for Myrus and Blanche they have a son Robert Thomas (Bob) age 6 months born Northfleet Kent. Daughter Ruth age 2 being born at Tilbury.
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 14 January 17 08:04 GMT (UK)

myrus has Siblings  Jack 1868, Joel 1868, john thomas 1871, sam reuben 1875, james 1877,

 is there a jack and joel as twins or are the dates wrong


The GRO index only has Joel.  Ancestry has wrongly transcribed him in 1881 as Jack the image says Joel
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 14 January 17 09:53 GMT (UK)
Rebecca Lumb Bapt. 5/4/1834 stainland chapel Indp. Halifax born 14/11/1833

Parents John & Ruth  from census father was a weaver.
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 14 January 17 10:33 GMT (UK)
Births registered as Graham mothers maiden name Lumb (Lamb) in Huddersfield reg dist
GRAHAM, MYRUS       mmn LAMB     
1865  March Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 380

GRAHAM, JOEL       
1867  June Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 395

GRAHAM, RUTH       
1869  Dec Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 365
Died March qtr 1870

GRAHAM, JOHN       
1871  March Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 389

GRAHAM, SAM  LUMB     
1873  June Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 397

GRAHAM, JAMES       
1876  Dec Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 395


This family is still in England in 1881.  If you believe they then moved to New Zealand it may be an idea to post on the NZ boards for details of their immigration and lives there
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 14 January 17 13:33 GMT (UK)
Possible Rebecca is in Ireland with son John Thomas born 1871 in 1911.
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: mgraham1 on Saturday 14 January 17 16:31 GMT (UK)
ok i found that they went to New Zealand on 21 Oct 1883 on the ship Taranaki
Robert, Rebecca, Myrus, Joel, John, Sam and James

to  Caterbury NZ to work at the Kaiapoi Woollen Mills

Will post in NZ boards to see what happened next - as i know Myrus had to have come back lol
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: amondg on Saturday 14 January 17 20:44 GMT (UK)
on ancestry New Zealand Estates
Samuel Graham of Sandon died 4 November 1891 relatives unknown.
Not necessarily the Samuel Graham of your family.
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 15 January 17 08:17 GMT (UK)
I see that you have had an excellent response to your New Zealand post with lots of information on the family out there.  ;D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=763013.

Rosie
Title: Re: Anyone know any Grahams from Tilbury/Chadwell
Post by: mgraham1 on Sunday 15 January 17 11:03 GMT (UK)
yes getting lots of interesting info, thank you all