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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: BUZZ on Friday 13 January 17 18:12 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to find when the Marrige took place between David Carey and his wife Emma and if possible Emma's maiden name.
David John Carey was born in 1848 in St Pancras, in the 1851 census he is with his parents Peter and Mary and siblings Ho 107 piece no 1495 Folio 259 page 9. In the 1861 census he his with his older brother Daniel at an industrial school RG09 piece no 108 Folio no 13 page 29. I cannot find him in the 1871 census. In the 1881 census he is with his wife Emma and their children the oldest is David who is 9 years old RG11 piece no 319 folio 10 page 13 from this I assume they were married late 1860's or early 1870's. David died in 1899, in the 1911 census Emma writes 40 in the column for how many years she has been married but there is a line through it so this means the marriage took place in 1871.
If anyone can provide me with more information on David and Emma I would be most grateful.
Buzz
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Gro index mother's maiden name Duffin
Rosie
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From the gro index (www.gro.gov.uk - free to search but you need to register)
Walter Carey
JAn/Feb/Mar 1880
Pancras
01B 51
Mothers maiden name: DUFFIN
That might help. He was the youngest child there with David and Emma in 1881.
So Emma was, most probably, nee Duffin
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Few tree's on A*****y with his wife as Emma Duffin but no record of a marriage ???
Rosie
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Birth reg of David John Carey, Dec qtr 1872 St Giles, gives mmn DUTTON.
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Hi Possibly Emma in 1871?
Sarah Duffin 55 Widow b Salisbury, Wiltshire
Emma 20
Jemima 18
Eliza 11
All children born St Pancras
Residing at West Street, Pancras
Census Ref RG10/223/12/18
Keyboard86
EDIT in 1861 Emma DUFFEN aged 8? b London in Islington.
Census Ref RG09/132/11/15
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Hi again, when Jemima Duffin married a William White 1st July 1872 St Pancras, one of the witnesses was David John Carey
Keyboard86
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INteresting entry in the St Pancras workhouse registers
Emily or Emma Duffin , or Carey
Birth 1851
Admission and discharge 14 July 1920 [Ancestry have got the date wrong on one entry and have 25 Sep 1920]
Occupation: traveller
Discharged to St Pancras Hospital
The name Emily Duffin is recorded on the chronological admission registers, but the alphabetical one has the alternate names. I can only imagine this came out during some kind of examination of her case/claim
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Forgot to mention nok was daughter Louisa
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Thank you all for the various information and especially details on Emma.
Buzz
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She was also admitted 17 Dec 1920 to 3 Jan 1921
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I am curious as to why people are interested in David and Emma Carey, as they are my great grandparents. Any information would be great. I am new to family searches,
Mary
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Hello Mary
I am doing some research for a cousin of mine who also is a great grand child of David and Emma through their daughter Elizabeth.
The only things that I have found out about them is what is in this posting.
Emma's parents I believe we're William and Sarah, there is a marriage in Lambeth in 1840 between William Duffin and Sarah Elizabeth Jane Blakesley. In the 1871 and 1861 Sarah's place of birth is Salisbury, Wiltshire but in the 1851 census her place of birth is shown as Shrewsbury.
Buzz
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Thats interesting Buzz my grandfather was Henry Sidney, David & Emma's son born in 1882. I have info on him if your cousin is interested.
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Hello Mary
I would be very interested in any information you could give me.
Buzz
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Henry joined the army in 1901 aged 19, he was in the Middlesex Regiment, and served in Singapore where he married my grandmother Maud Reid in 1900. I believe he was a colour sergeant then. The had a child Vida in Singapore, and another in 1912 (Henry Sidney known as Sid) when in India. He was @ that time in the 3rd battalion. In 1914 he was in England in Devonport Plymouth where my Mum Connie was born. He became a Company Quartermaster Sergeant and was then in the 4th battalion when the war started. His battalion departed Devonport for Boulogne in August 1914. Henry was in a number of battles including the First Battle of Ypres, Passendaelle and the Somme. My Mum's last memory of him is waving goodbye to him as he boarded the train to return to the war in 1917, by then he had 4 children and one on the way. Henry was killed in action on 22/12/1917. After grandma remarried all photo's & memerobilia were disposed of , so sadly there are no photo's or his medals, though my cousin in Australia has got copies of his medals. That's a pocket history, I'll be happy to try and answer any questions. Mary
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Sorry Buzz, typo alert he married Maud in 1909 not 1900
Also I've just had a look @ Ancestry, my brother has done a lot of work on the family tree and the Duffin tree stretches back further. you could look there to find out more Buzz
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Thank you Mary for all the information on Henry he certainly was a career soldier.
As I said before my cousin is descended from Henry's younger sister Elizabeth who married Edward Bellman in 1913 they had three children Edward 1913 Reginald 1923 and Lilian 1928. Edward senior died in 1940, but Elizabeth lived until the age of 97.
I will have to go on Ancestry and look for the tree your brother has done, is that under the Carey or Duffin name or something else.
As I stated at the beginning of this posting David Carey is first found in the 1851 census with his siblings and parents Peter and Mary who were both born in Dublin, I did find a marriage between a Peter Carey and Mary Mariarty 5/9/1830 at St Clement Danes Westminster but I'm not sure if this is the correct couple.
Buzz
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Hi again Buzz, this is so exciting. I really want to find out what happened to the other children of David & Emma, my grandma told people that none of the boys came back from the war, but the general feeling was this was part of a plan to cut off from the Carey family due to pressure from my step-grandad William Rice. If you have any information on Elizabeth & Henry's siblings I would love to know. I believe there were 9 children in all. How amazing that Elizabeth lived to 97, the same age that my Mum Connie(her niece) died.Mum died in 2011, what a shame she never got to meet her Aunt Elizabeth. The family tree on Ancestry is in the name of Patrick Haughton (the Haughton family tree). I'm named as a contributor but never have as I'm not great at this techno stuff!! Paddy says he has let it slip of late, but with your info there is more to add, so thanks. I don't know if you need his permission to look, but let me know if you do. Mary
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Hello Mary,
On the subject of Henry's siblings my cousin told me that besides her grandmother Elizabeth she also knew Louisa and Albert.
At the outbreak of the war in 1914 the three oldest sons David, George and William if they were still alive would have been aged 42, 40 and 37 at that age I'm not sure they would have been compelled to sign up.
Buzz