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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: Bearcub on Tuesday 17 January 17 01:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm hoping that some locals may be able to help me with a bit of local geography?
I am looking for a baptism record for an Edward Brittin, who I believe to be born abt 1810. On the 1851 and 1861 census, his place of birth is given as Old Stratford, Northamptonshire.
I have searched parish records on Ancestry and the only possible I can find is a baptism in Stoney Stratford, Buckingham on 11 June 1810 (parents Jacob Brittin and Ann).
I ignored this originally, but getting desperate, I've been doing a bit of googling and it appears Old Stratford may have been part of Stoney Stratford in the past?
Could Buckinghamshire/ Northamptonshire have had different borders in 1810?
Grateful for any help.
Many thanks
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Hi bear cub
Yes the borders were different. Old Stratford was part of Northamptonshire. I think parts of Stony Stratford were also at one time.
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Old Stratford still is in Northants. The River Ouse forms the county boundary. Confusingly, it enjoys a Milton Keynes address and postcode!
But genealogically, people never took any notice of county boundaries, and Stony Stratford is the next door parish. And there is no suitable baptism anywhere in Northamptonshire. I think you have found your Edward in Stony, already!
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Many thanks both,
I originally ignored that record because I didn't realise Bucks and Northants were so close! My geography needs some work. ;) It was only because they both had Stratford in the name that made me think again..
I'm more reassured now.
Thanks!
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What is significant is that Old Stratford was not a parish at that time. It only became a parish in 1951. Prior to that it was part of the old parish of Passenham. It was always regarded as a suburb of Stony Stratford and so a baptism there is very likely.
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Thank you! It was on the 1851 and 1861 census that he had declared his place of birth as Old Stratford, Northamptonshire? At least that is what I believe it says. (The Ancestry transcriber has actually put Oldhampton, Northamptonshire, but I'm fairly sure it doesn't say that).
My only worry now is that my Edward moved to Clerkenwell, London (I have his marriage record and have found him on census' in 1851 and 1861), but whilst searching for his death record, I have found a couple of death records for Edward Brittin's back in Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire. So, the one in the baptism record may have stayed and subsequently died there....?
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I've found people from Stony Stratford also using Cosgrove parish church.
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Thank you - I tried there (there are some good on-line records), but no joy unfortunately.
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Might this be worth looking in to, if not already ...
Edward Brittin of Stony Stratford = Elizabeth Johnson otp spinster 1800 Feb 25 Courtenhall by licence
(Northants Marriage Index)
The licence may be at NRO.
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Ah, now that's put a spanner in the works.....
That could well be a possible parents marriage.... May I ask where you found that record as I haven't found that in my on-line searches?
Many thanks
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The 1800 marriage bond states that Edward Brittin is a saddler
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Edward Brittin of Stony Stratford = Elizabeth Johnson otp spinster 1800 Feb 25 Courtenhall by licence
(Northants Marriage Index)
Bearcub, I found this marriage on the Northamptonshire Marriage Index CD - http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/marriages.html - and given the father's name and the spelling of the surname I thought it may be relevant. I have just now checked the original on An***y in the Courteenhall registers ... both signed the register with their names, and the witnesses were Hannah Johnson and Richard Longman.
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Thanks again - very helpful.
Mgeneas - could I ask where you have found that the 1800 Edward was a saddler? That is very interesting as one of my later Edward's (born 1833) was also a Harness Maker / saddler.....
I'm getting a bit tied up in knots as I think I now have 4 generations of Edward Brittin's!
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I happen to have copies of all 1800 (one year only) marriage bonds (that is the application for a marriage licence). On that his occupation is given.
The Edwards could be cousins etc,
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Thank you - that's really interesting.
I'm actually thinking that could be the marriage of the parents of my Edward born in 1810. (Grandfather of my Edward born 1833).
I guess if I went to the Northants Records Offices, they would have the bonds too?
Sorry for all the stupid questions; I've only just started dabbling in parish records and finding it all a bit confusing....
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The record office has a card index of the marriage bonds as well as the originals.
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Thank you. I think I'm going to have to plan a trip to the Norhants Records Office!