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Title: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Wednesday 18 January 17 15:43 GMT (UK)
Looking for information on Samuel MacGillivantich, born Achnaboban, Spean Bridge,1866, son of John MacGillivantich and his wife Flora Campbell. The MacGillivantichs changed their surname to MacDonald sometime between 1861 and 1871. Samuel was ordained a Roman Catholic Priest in Oban in 1894 and served in Fort William, Laggan and Daliburgh. He officiated at his sister's marriage in Roy Bridge in 1897 and was in Edinburgh in 1900 - then he disappears. Catholic Church directory has no obituary for him. Did he go abroad or did he leave the priesthood? Any information would be appreciated.
Title: Re: SAMUEL (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 January 17 18:00 GMT (UK)
Was his birth registered as MacGillivantich or MacDonald?  SEE REPLY 3 BELOW

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Looking for information on Samuel MacGillivantich, born Achnaboban, Spean Bridge,1866

Scotlands People are showing no trace of a birth under MacGillivantich or a marriage for John & Flora under that surname - is that the correct spelling?

Do you know his exact birthdate?

By what name was he known as a priest?
Title: Re: SAMUEL (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 January 17 18:18 GMT (UK)
Is this the right 1871 entry? McDonald - not MacDonald

Address Achnabobane  Kilmonivaig Invernessshire.  All b Kilmonivaig

John McDonald   44 crofter
Flora    42
Sarah  14
Joan  7
Samuel  4
Helen  2
Kilmonivaig ED 4 Page 2 Line 5
Title: Re: SAMUEL (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 January 17 18:22 GMT (UK)
In 1861 they are living with Flora's parents and the surname is transcribed as Mc Gillirantin

Additional child John aged 6 so marriage appears to be pre-1855 and was presumably under that surname

Kilmonivaig ED 6 Page 3 Line 4

From Family Search - note surname is Mc - not Mac

John Mcgillivantich m Flora Campbell 20 Jan 1853 Kilmonivaig, Inverness

And Samuel's birth also from FS

Samuel Mc Gillivantich born 12 April 1866 KILMONIVAIG, INVERNESS, SCOTLAND
father: John Mc Gillivantich mother: Flora Campbell
Title: Re: SAMUEL (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Wednesday 18 January 17 21:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you Carole - sorry - force of habit using Mac instead of Mc. I had his birth and date of parents marriage, brothers and sisters etc.
I am just puzzled as to what happened to him after being in Edinburgh in 1900. The descendants of his sister had never even heard of him!
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 January 17 23:41 GMT (UK)
I can't find any death on SP for him as McGillivantich and I think that would be the name used in any marriage or death as that was his birth surname.

Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Thursday 19 January 17 09:10 GMT (UK)
That's the strange thing - there are no deaths or marriages for his brothers or sisters under McGiilivantich - they are Mc/MacDonalds.
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 19 January 17 11:14 GMT (UK)
The change of surnames was not uncommon at that time. My line from Moidart area changed from MacIsaac to M(a)cDonald too around the 1850s.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 19 January 17 11:32 GMT (UK)
Added: Close but wrong entry  :-\

Have you excluded the death in Partick, Glasgow in 1920 for a 54 yr old Samuel McDonald? I included the name of Campbell for the mother's maiden name.

If it is the correct one, there is an entry in the Wills & Testament section of SP which has:

Samuel MacDonald - 5/11/1920 - 25 Gordon Street, Whiteinch, Glasgow, d. 06/07/1920 at Glasgow, intestate.

Monica
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Thursday 19 January 17 12:01 GMT (UK)
Yes I looked at the Samuel who died in Partick and had hoped it was him but wrong parents.
MacIsaacs and MacDonalds in Moidart - yes - been there!!! Apparently (so I was told) the McGillivantichs changed their name because McDonald was easier to spell!
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 22 January 17 04:35 GMT (UK)
Samuel was ordained a Roman Catholic Priest in Oban in 1894 and served in Fort William, Laggan and Daliburgh. He officiated at his sister's marriage in Roy Bridge in 1897 and was in Edinburgh in 1900 - then he disappears. Catholic Church directory has no obituary for him. Did he go abroad or did he leave the priesthood? Any information would be appreciated.

Hi Abrach,

Not sure if you have this but will include it as Samuel did serve Daliburgh (temporarily) in 1894.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jbm/

Scroll down to Daliburgh

Can you please give the details you know of him in 1900?

His Title, Residence etc. (all/any) info. for others to try & help?

I did a search of my own family records of Marriages (Boisdale RD) which Daliburgh comes under but alas none were married that year i.e. no-one in my family (to date) were married by Samuel  :(

Annie

Added, I forgot to mention my reason for looking for marriages in Daliburgh was for a timescale of his time there.

Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 24 January 17 20:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Abrach,

I will include this link which has a downloadable word doc.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jca/

From Page 5:

"Fr Sam MacDonald (1899) was from Achnabobane, Lochaber. He studied in France and St Peter’s College, Glasgow. He was in Laggan and Daliburgh for short periods; was the assistant to Fr Sandy in 1899 and went to St Patrick’s, Edinburgh in 1900. After 1901 no more is heard of him".

He just seems to disappear.

I looked at the Samuel who died in Partick and had hoped it was him but wrong parents.

I'm just wondering who the informant was on that death?

Annie
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Tuesday 24 January 17 21:15 GMT (UK)
The one in Partick who died aged 54 in 1920 was a plumber, unmarried and the informant was his cousin, Robert Duncan.
There are a few more possibilities but I will wait until I can get to Edinburgh for a day - you can fritter away a wee fortune using Scotlands People!
thanks for your interest
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 24 January 17 21:29 GMT (UK)
My other thought is....

If you know where his parents are buried, you could maybe check as to whether Samuel is there too?

Annie
Title: Re: Samuel (MACGILLIVANTICH) MACDONALD
Post by: abrach1 on Tuesday 24 January 17 22:49 GMT (UK)
Good idea - thanks Annie