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Hi
I have a Joseph GHENT (sometimes GENT) married to Sarah married sometime before 1826.
I can not find a marrriage record for this couple.
I have a Newspaper record Nottingham Review and General Advertiser 6 Dec 1839
At Averham on Monday evening aged 33 years Sarah the belovered wife of Mr Ghent leaving a family of 9 children to lament their loss.
For children I have.
Baptism records St Michael and all Angels at Averham
1. Martha 1831
2.Elizabeth 1833
3.John 1835
4.Aaron Nov 1839 Twin died 1840
5. Moses Nov 1839 twin died 1840
Then from the 1841 UK census
6. Ann 1826
7.Joseph 1829 (on UK census 71,81,91 birth place listed as HAVERSHAM) Then in 1911 AVERHAM
I can not work out where Haversham parish is??
8. William1837
Can not find where these 3 were baptised.
Is anyone able to spot the 9th child? Thinking maybe the eldest child?
Joseph remarries to Ann SNAITH 29 June1840
Lincolnshire chronicle 3 July 1840
At Averham near Newark on Monday last Mr Joseph Gent to Widow Snaith. (Mary Ann)
Joseph remarries 1860 to Elizabeth GIBSON
Thanks for any help.
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Sarah's maiden name was Doughty as per GRO maiden name search on Moses birth
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Thanks CaroleW. Thats a great find. I had forgotten to look on the GRO records.
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Hi, Joseph was my Great Grandfather x 3.
According to my Mum, locally they pronounce Averham as "Airham".
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Adrain
Joseph Gent is my 4x gr grandfather. My mother is a Gent. We come off the William Gent (1837) to Sarah Allen line.
Who do you have as Joseph's parents?
Regards Red3.
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Baptism Rolleston, Holy Trinity
4-10-1829 Joseph son of Joseph & Sarah GENT abode Fiskerton father a labourer
Baptism Balderton, St Giles
6-12-1827 Sarah dau Joseph & Sarah GENT abode Balderton father a labourer
Baptism Averham
26-9-1802 Joseph son of Willm & Mary Gent
Burial Averham
5-12-1839 Sarah Gent aged 30
13-12-1839 Aaron Gent infant
26-1-1840 Moses Gent infant
16-6-1849 Lucy Gent 5d
11=12-1856 Ann Gent 58
27-6-1873 Elizabeth Gent 64
26-8-1877 Joseph Gent 74
9-4-1888 Harry Gent inf abode Staythorpe
10-7-1852 Moses Ghent inf abode Southwell
...and yes, locally it is Air am
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A possibility...
Baptisms Rolleston
24-2-1805 Willm son of Willm & Mary Gent
16-9-1808 John Cullen son of Willm & Mary Gent
Marriage Morton
19-7-1802 William Gent and Mary Cullen... so if the parents of Joseph, they only just managed to get the marriage in before the baptism!
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I have William and Mary as his Parents.
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Hi Larkspur
Thank you will have a search around and see what I can come up with.
I have spotted the William Ghent to Mary Cullen but they do not quite match up with the family I appear to be following.
The Baptisms at Rolleston look like a strong possibity.
Regards Red3
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I have some more info to find and I will let you know what I come up with.
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Larkspur
Thank you will have a search around and see what I can come up with.
I have spotted the William Ghent to Mary Cullen but they do not quite match up with the family I appear to be following.
The Baptisms at Rolleston look like a strong possibity.
Regards Red
If the baptisms at Rolleston look promising surely the fact one child is baptised John Cullen Gent , leans towards the chance that his mothers maiden name was Cullen ???
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Hi Larkspur
There are two William Gents around this time.
William GENT and Mary CARNELL married 20 Feb 1798 at Bulwell
and
William GENT and Mary CULLEN married 1802 at Morton.
There is a witness called Samuel GENT on the marriage of Joseph GENT and Sarah DOUGHTY.
Not sure who Samuel is. Other witness is James Barnsdale (the parish clerk)
Regards Red3
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What date was Joseph and Sarah's wedding as I don't have it in my records.
Thanks!
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Red, have a look on a map at the locations.
Morton by Fiskerton is just down the road from Averham, where as Bulwell is further afield being the other side of Nottingham.
I think the Morton marriage is the correct one and is the one I have used in my tree. Given the use of Cullen as a Middle name for their Son John , I think the case is solid.
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Ade
Joseph GENT married Sarah DOUGHTY 14 Feb 1826 at Beckingham Lincolnshire. Witness SAmuel GENT and James BARNSDALE ( who appears to be the parish clerk)
Sarah is listed of this parish and Joseph is listed as from elsewhere.
Baptism record for Sarah daughter of Robert and Ann Doughty 19 Feb 1809. At Beckingham Lincolnshire.
On the 1841 UK Census there is an Ann Doughty living near Joseph and Mary Ghent at Averham Southwell. She is recorded as a widow pouper aged 66years.
I see what you mean by the map. Yes I would say Mary Cullen is our lady.
Is that the family at Fiskerton Rolleston Southwell Notts. in 1841
William (1781) Mary (1781) John 1811 John 1796 William 1806 ?
Regards Red.
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Brilliant. ;D Thanks very much.
Cheers, Ade.
PS: Yes the details you have for the 1841 census are the same as I have listed in my tree.
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"William GENT and Mary CARNELL married 20 Feb 1798 at Bulwell"
A William & Mary Gent also baptised many children in Bulwell from June 1798 onwards.....
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http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513044&iid=45921
Marriage of Joseph Gent of the Parish of Southwell in the County of Nottingham.
baptism Averham
26-9-1802 Joseph son of Willm. and Mary Gent.
Averham to Southwell is 4.9 miles.
Averham to Morton is 4.5 miles
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Thanks for the link. Not been there before.
Cheers, Ade.
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This week, just out of interest, I obtained the marriage cert of George Ghent, a Gardener aged 29 of Averham who married Sarah Adcock of Thurlby, aged 28 in Bourne, Lincs on Oct 25th 1870. His Father was Joseph Ghent, also a Gardener, and hers Ireland Adcock, a Labourer.
Not fitted them into my tree yet. Maybe of interest to you?
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Ade
I have Joseph GHENT (1802 - 1877) second marriage to a widow Mary Ann SNAITH 1840. Lincolnshire Chronicle 3 July 1840
At Averham near Newark on Monday last Mr Joseph Gent to Widow Snaith.
I have one childen recorded from this union. George bap 1842.
Possible birth?
GHENT, GEORGE LEE Order
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 15 Page 671
I do not know what Widow Mary Ann SNAITH maiden name is. Could be LEE?? Have not looked into this yet. George is with the family on the 1851 Uk Census. (George Ghent son aged 10 born Averham) I do not know if there was other children from this 2nd marriage.
Thanks!
Regards Red.
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Hi Red, thanks.
Joseph is whom I am descended from. There were no other children from this marriage as far as I know?
Here is how I fit in:
Joseph Ghent (1802 - 1877)
3rd great-grandfather
George Ghent (1842 - )
son of Joseph Ghent
Joseph Ghent (1881 - 1958)
son of George Ghent
Nellie Ghent (1903 - 1993)
daughter of Joseph Ghent
Jean Higgs (1933 - )
daughter of Nellie Ghent
Adrian Stevenson (1961)
Son of Jean Higgs
Cheers, Ade.
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Ann GHENT 2nd wife of Joseph 1798 to 1856.
Below possible first marriage. On the 1841 Census there is an Elizabeth SNAITH aged 10 with the GHENT family.
First name(s)
Ann
Last name
Lee
Marriage year
1825
Marriage date
25 Jul 1825
Marriage place
Averham
Church
St Michael & All Angels
Denomination
Anglican
Spouse's first name(s)
John
Spouse's last name
Snaith
County
Nottinghamshire
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Hi Ade
I have Joseph GHENTs first wife dieing 1839 with the birth of twins.
Am sure George is from the second wife.
I fit in :
Joseph Gent 1802 Sarah Doughty
their son William GENT 1837 married Sarah ALLEN
their son George GENT 1858 married Harriet FISHER
Their son George William Gent 1883 married Edith BRAUN
this couple had 12 children some in England and some in Canada before coming to New Zealand. One was my Grandfather. John Henry GENT 1914.
Regards Red
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I'll have a hunt around and see what I can find about the Snaith side.
Have a good day Red.
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This week, just out of interest, I obtained the marriage cert of George Ghent, a Gardener aged 29 of Averham who married Sarah Adcock of Thurlby, aged 28 in Bourne, Lincs on Oct 25th 1870. His Father was Joseph Ghent, also a Gardener, and hers Ireland Adcock, a Labourer.
Not fitted them into my tree yet. Maybe of interest to you?
Cheers, Ade.
For some reason I have the name ALICE ADCOCK
GEORGE
Last name
GHENT
Marriage quarter
4
Marriage year
1870
Registration month
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MarriageFinder™ GEORGE GHENT married one of these people
SARAH ADCOCK, ALICE ADCOCK
District
BOURNE
I had him paired with Alice ADCOCK.
1871 UK Census at Northgate Newark NOTTS>
George GHENT 28 years gardener birth Averham
Alice 28 years wife birth Thealby Bourn
1881 UKCensus at Rawden Warfedale
George 38 Gardener Averham
Alice 38 wife
Annie 9 daughter born Selby Yorkshire
James Butler 23 boarder
Why does the marriage cert have Sarah Adcock? Interesting??!!
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1911 Kendal rd Bolton Lancashire
George GHENT 68 Gardener born Averham
Alice 57 born Thurlby Lin.
Walter son 23 Draper ass. Born Malton Yorks.
Alice claims 2 children born and 2 still living.
I believe this George to be from the second marriage of Joseph 1802.
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Hi Red, thanks.
Joseph is whom I am descended from. There were no other children from this marriage as far as I know?
Here is how I fit in:
Joseph Ghent (1802 - 1877)
3rd great-grandfather
George Ghent (1842 - )
son of Joseph Ghent
Joseph Ghent (1881 - 1958)
son of George Ghent
Nellie Ghent (1903 - 1993)
daughter of Joseph Ghent
Jean Higgs (1933 - )
daughter of Nellie Ghent
Adrian Stevenson (1961)
Son of Jean Higgs
Cheers, Ade.
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So your Joseph GHENT (1881 - 1958) did he marry Bertha Ada JONES?
I have him born to William and Sarah (Allen) GHENT.
GHENT, JOSEPH ALLEN Order
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 387
Regards Red.
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Sorry! It is Alice. On the cert.
Cheers, Ade.
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Yes, married Bertha Ada Jones. My Mum knew her as she died in 1959.
Cheers, Ade.
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Thanks too for the other info!
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Red, thanks.
Joseph is whom I am descended from. There were no other children from this marriage as far as I know?
Here is how I fit in:
Joseph Ghent (1802 - 1877)
3rd great-grandfather
George Ghent (1842 - )
son of Joseph Ghent
Joseph Ghent (1881 - 1958)
son of George Ghent
Nellie Ghent (1903 - 1993)
daughter of Joseph Ghent
Jean Higgs (1933 - )
daughter of Nellie Ghent
Adrian Stevenson (1961)
Son of Jean Higgs
Cheers, Ade.
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Hi Ade
I think you have an error in your tree. You have George GHENT 1842- son of Joseph.
Joseph Gent born 1881 (married Bertha Jones) was the son of William Gent (1837- 1919) and Sarah (Allen).
You can follow them in the Census by following Sarah GENT born Chipstone Nottinghamshire 1840.
William sometimes uses the name George for some reason.
Red3.
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Marriage Averham
25-7-1825 John Snaith and Ann Lee
29-6-1840 Joseph GHENT and Ann Snaith
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Thanks Larkspur.
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Thanks from me too to you both.
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Sorted now:
William Gent (1779 - 1866)
4th great-grandfather
Joseph Ghent (1802 - 1877)
son of William Gent
William Ghent (1837 - 1917)
son of Joseph Ghent
Joseph Ghent (1881 - 1958)
son of William Ghent
Nellie Ghent (1903 - 1993)
daughter of Joseph Ghent
Jean Higgs (1933 - )
daughter of Nellie Ghent
Adrian Stevenson
Son of Jean Higgs