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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: Tom Langley on Friday 20 January 17 12:19 GMT (UK)
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Hi, im wondering if anyone may have access to grave records for Llanbrynmair, Powys? Im trying to trace the Jones family that lived there in the early 1800s.
Obviously Jones is a very simple name to trace!! :-\
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Hi Tom
FindMyPast have the burial records for Powys, including Llanbryn-mair, which shows 249 Jones burials there.
Gadget
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I suspect my ancestor died in or around 1818 (Richard Jones of Llanbrymair), but i cant find a record of it.
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Could he have been buried in a neighbouring parish? What age would he have been?
Added - or possibly the Old Chapel - Powys FHS have produced a booklet- not sure it's included in the FindMyPast records
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Ive just found a likely will dated 1830. He was of Llanbrynmair, so id imagine he was buried there.
Seems to be a few Richard Jones of Llanbrynmair over the years!!
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This is the nearest match in gravestones records NOT PARISH RECORDS is a Richard Jones 9 Jan 1821 three other siblings on gravesone
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Burials at St Mary's Llanbrynmair
Jan 9 1821 Richard Jones age 67 of Esgair ( Egair ) Tafolwern
Apr 21 1825 Richard Jones age 76 of Cemmes Gerddigleision
Jun 11 1829 Richard Jones age 61 of Caiegleision
Not sure if that is any help
Cheers
Erika :)
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YES! The last one you mentioned is my ancestor! I found his will, but with it being a common name was unable to find a baptism. Now i know his age i can try to find him again.
Thank you very much!
Do these records go as far as to say wife of? Just wondering if there may be a record of Richard Jones first wifes death. I dont know her name but she will have died sometime before 1806 when he remarried.
Tom
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There is a pedigree of Richard Jones baptised 1768 Llanbrynmair going back over 200 years. It is on the IGI so will definitely need pulling appart and checking!
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Hi Tom
I have just got copies of the burial records of St Mary's Llanbrynmair, but they don't give any family information.
The record I have pre 1806 doesn't give ages unfortunately, but I will look to see if that address appears against any of the female burials.
Dinner beckons so it maybe a little later ;)
Cheers
Erika :)
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Thank you! I see one of your names of interest is Breese. The first tree i found had Brees ancestry in Llanbrynmair, i did however find a 2nd pedigree for another Richard Jones in 1768. That one went back into Welsh royalty (i know which id prefer to be right!).
Not sure how to tackle this now ive got two Richard Jones baptised in 1768!!
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Hi Tom
Have checked for possible wives of Richard, quite a few names, but none living at the address where Richard was living at the time of his death. Have you had any luck from the IGI?
My Brees/Breese all came from Llanbrynmair, but there were so many families and with similar names I too have come unstuck. Got back to 5x grandfather b. 1724 and then ????
I haven't done too much digging with them recently, maybe I should start again!
Let me know if you need any more lookups done for St Mary's and I'll try to help.
Cheers
Erika :)
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Thanks you for your help! Theres quite a lot of records that arent on the IGI or FindMyPast it seems.
Well Richards widow Ann was living at that address in the 1841 census, but appears to have died by the 1851 census, so she must have moved away before her death?
I have this info regarding their marriage: Widower at time of marriage to Ann Evan also widow. Both of Llanbrynmair.
Immanuel Jones and Evan Thomas were present at his marriage.
No idea how to differentiate the two 1768 Richards!!
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Kia ora
I have just seen this post about Llanbrynmair - I hope to visit next year - and wondered whether Erika, who commented that she had the burial records might have anything useful for me. Any help much appreciated.
1670 RUBBATHAN
Benjamin Rubbathan
b.? St Mary, Llanbrynmair, Powis, Wales (reg.)
m.1695?
d.
Birth Guliumus (William) Rubbathan son of Benjamin3 Feb 1695 Llanbrynmair, Wales???
William Rubbathan (possibly son of Benjamin)
b.1695 Feb 3 St Mary, Llanbrynmair, Powis, Wales (I)
m.1720 Ann
d.1771 Mar 23 Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Nga mihi
Bronwen Summers
Otautahi / Christchurch
Aotearoa
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Hi Bronwen
Not a lot of help I'm afraid.
No Rubbathan listed at all, but variations of the name include Robotham, Robothon and Rowbotham.
Not sure whether you have ever come across those spellings in your research.
The following are who are recorded
Oliver Robotham of great age 10 March 1667/8 but doesn't say where buried, just in the Parish of Llanbrynmair
Oliver Robothon 23 November 1691/2
Frances Rowbotham relict of Oliver Rowbotham deceased 7 April 1671/2 maiden name could have been Tart buried in Pennant
John Ralph (alias Robotham ) 29 August 1718
Sarah Ralph (alias Robotham ) 19 December 1718
Sorry nothing else after that unfortunately
Maybe the local Family History Society has more records that would help, always very knowledgeable there.
Good luck and enjoy your visit.
Erika :)
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Many thanks Erika - I do have all those various spellings. I am thinking of getting some research done in that area.
nga mihi nuii
Bronwen