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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: Oneday on Tuesday 24 January 17 23:49 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for a relative who is listed on birth registrations as a clockmaker/jeweller who lived in the Waterford, Lismore, Cappoquin area of ireland in the 1860 to 1910's.
I have tried searching for lists etc., with no success as yet.
I would like to know if this trade at the time required an apprenticeship and if so where those documents may have been recorded.
Any further information to lead me in the right direction to perhaps track this relative would be appreciated.
The name I'm looking for is Patrick Hendrick and all of the differing spellings involved - other possibilities are: Hanrick, Henrick, Handricks, Hendricks, Hendericks etc.
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This man
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Cappoquin/Barrack_Street/1757677/
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1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__2_Urban/Lady_Lane__part_of_/670124/
Alice is a widow.
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Is it just his working life you are looking for?
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There might be something about how a person became a clockmaker in this
https://issuu.com/iada/docs/300_years_of_irish_timekeeping
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Thanks for the census links - I have those already.
I also had a look at the other link earlier this morning - no luck in it either.
This man was married at least twice & I'm trying to find out more about his birth & or where he came from prior to his first marriage in 1864 (This is on the assumption he wasn't married prior to this as his second marriage was in the 1890's.)
His father on his marriage documentation is John.
I have very few leads (if any) as to where he lived prior to his marriage.
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Do you have the details of his first marriage?
He says he is from Wexford on the Census and on his marriage to Alice his father John is a Mill Wirght.
Finding John's death might help.
I don't know if a Mill Wirght moved around for work but could there be a John Hendrick living near a mill in Griffiths Valuation.
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Nothing more substantial to merit mentioning the following, other than the baptism name, county and year, so just to note until it can be ruled in or out, it is for a Patrick Hendrick baptised on 7 October 1843 in Enniscorthy RC parish, parents John Hendrick and Catherine Grannell, sponsors Denis and Anty Breen? (left page, 6th entry down):
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634060#page/72/mode/1up
Lots of other children baptised for this couple, no further clues in those records.
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Hi,
I saw the above record re Catherine Grannell as the mother, it seems he died aged 26.
Maggsie
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FYI
Patrick HANRICK m Catherine MOLONY (also shown as MULLOWNEY) Oct 23 1864 Cappoquin
LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a5604914314454?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Dpatrick%26namel%3Dhanrick%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D1864%26yyto%3D1864%26submit%3DSearch) to civil record - original not yet online
They had at least eleven children all baptised RC
Catherine HENDRICK died Nov 30 1889 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e0a3c617727148?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Dcatherine%26namel%3Dhendrick%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D1889%26yyto%3D1889%26submit%3DSearch)
Patrick HENDRICK m Alice Jane CLIFFORD Jun 18 1895 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10529/5835436.pdf)
Patrick HENDRICK d Dec 23 1910 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511610.pdf)
aged 62 implying born c1848 approx
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Thanks for the replies to date.
I have a lot of information you have already posted.
Care has to be taken about Patrick Hendrick as there are about 4 of them in that area & at least 2 have married different Catherine's and had children with the same first name in the same year.
I am looking for information prior to his 1964 marriage.
His first wife Catherine died in 1889 in Lismore, Ireland;he remarried in about 1895 to Alice then he died in about 1910. I have managed to contact one of the decendants of Alice & Patrick's children but no further information has been forthcoming about his origins.
I really have no idea where he lived prior to either of his marriages (I don't recall saying Wexford anywhere). One of his children lived in the Wexford area under their married name.
Is there anyone that has any further information on how either clockmakers or jeweller's got their trade in those days?
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The 1901 census (link given in reply #2 by Sinann) states Patrick was born in Wexford
His age was given as 55 which implies he was born c1846
I posted links to the civil records for his first & second marraiges and death.
At his death in 1910 he was described as aged 62 which implies he was born c1848
The discrepancy is not unusual at that time.
Sinann also posted a link to an interesting piece about clockmaking/clockmakers in ireland in reply #4
This post on another forum has reference to books that list Irish Clock and Watch Makers which maybe of use; bearing in mind the Patrick Hendrick may have worked for someone rather than make things under his own name
The eleven children that I found from 1867 up to 1885
have the parents Patrick HENDRICK and Catherine MOLONY or variants of these names
LINK (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=743170.9) to another related topic with further information
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Article from Sep 26 1912 Freeeman's Journal Sydney
referring to the family after the death of Patrick HENDRICK
LINK (https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10450-728933/freemans-journal-sydney-nsw?trp=&trn=organic_google&trl=)
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I think you may have to wait until more Civil Cert images come online, to see where his father died and what address is on his first marriage.
In the mean time I was trying to see if there was an area in Wexford where a Mill Wright might be more likely to be found.
There are only two in Wexford in 1901 living in the same place near the large looking mill of Kilcarbry just outside Enniscorthy.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,696945,636484,11,9
Map dates are 1897 to 1913 so it may have closed down after the census.
An area worth keeping in mind.
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There is another family of Hendrick's that come out of Wexford who have an extensive family tree but I have yet to make a definate connection on it.
To be honest I hadn't noticed that he had stated he was born in Wexford on the 1901 census. This is new.
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How are you getting on with this search ?
have you tried on occupations board they may be able to help with the clockmaker side
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I'm still searching for this man. I am also unable to find which graveyard he was buried in in 1910 in Waterford. What I find suspicious is that there is another Patrick Hendrick who died in 1910 between the same months Oct - Dec not that far away.
I have been told he may have a middle name of Henry.
Otherwise no luck yet.
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I see two Patrick Hendrick's death in 1910
This one in Watherford (posted earlier by MyLuck)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511610.pdf
The watchmaker married to Alice
The other is in Carlow, a carpenter married to Catherine
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05411/4511943.pdf
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Hi, Thanks for that record. I already have it. It doesn't however tell me where he was buried other than Waterford.
I'm not familiar with how many cemeteries there are in Waterford any I have looked at have drawn blanks.
I'm also still trying to find more about his apprenticeship in clockmaking/watchmaking. This would have been around late 1850 to early 1860's. I'm now suspecting he could have gone to Dublin to do this unless he was trained under a master in his local area. All I have is from his wedding onward. Nothing prior & only possibilities.
If I ordered his wedding certificate from his first marriage would that have his & her parent names?
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Only the father's names, like his second marriage cert.
It should be online free before the end of 2018.
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Hi, Thanks for that record. I already have it. It doesn't however tell me where he was buried other than Waterford.
I'm not familiar with how many cemeteries there are in Waterford any I have looked at have drawn blanks.
He could also be buried back at his homeplace!
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Have you check everything here?
http://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/departments/culture-heritage/family-history/burial-records.htm