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Is it possible to find the brides parents names for a marriage that occurred 23 Jun 1909 Battleford? The bride was an Elizabeth Cann. Her spouse was Tremmeling Richard Taylor. Info taken from 1913 Citizenship application for Tremmeling in Michigan
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Sorry no marriage but death record for Elizabeth Cann gives a birth date of 18 February 1888 - passed away December 1964 -
Birth of Elizabeth Elsey Cann - 18 February 1888 - Father James Cann and Mother Sarah Ann Pickering.
Elgin East Aylmer Ontario - 1891
James Cann 33 Sarah Ann Cann 35
Stella Nancy Cann 8 Elizabeth Elea Cann 3
Sandra
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Elgin Aylmer Ontario 1901
James Cann 43 born 28 Febryary 1858 - Sarah C Cann 45 born 4 May 1855
Stella N Cann 18 born 4 July 1882 - Elizabeth Cann 13 born 18 February 1888
Stella was daughter of first marriage.
Sandra
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Marriage of Sarah Ann Pickering and James Cann - 29 April 1884 - Middlesex, Ontario.
Father William Pickering and Susanah
Sandra
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James Cann was married previously to Nancy Painter 26 May 1881 Middlesex, Ontario.
Nancy passed away 4 July 1882 Kent Ontario.
FIND A GRAVE
Stella wife of James. mother of Stella Nancy - dtr of John and Mary.
Burial Evergreen Cemetery Blenheim Chatham-Kent Municipality Ontario, Canada.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100838561&ref=acom
Sandra
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Sorry no marriage but death record for Elizabeth Cann gives a birth date of 18 February 1888 - passed away December 1964 -
Birth of Elizabeth Elsey Cann - 18 February 1888 - Father James Cann and Mother Sarah Ann Pickering.
Elgin East Aylmer Ontario - 1891
James Cann 33 Sarah Ann Cann 35
Stella Nancy Cann 8 Elizabeth Elea Cann 3
Sandra
Thanks Sandra
Where did you find death record? I looked but could not find it. Trying to positively tie bride to daughter of James and Sarah
Ed
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBVN-ZJ3
FIND A GRAVE
Tremmelling Taylor - 1888-1938
Elizabeth Taylor - 1888-1964
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1179538
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95MY-PDD?mode=g&i=3768&cc=1916040
Sandra
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Michigan, Federal Naturalization Records, 1887-1931 - Elizabeth Cann Taylor - 18 February 1888 Aylmer Canada -
Sandra
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Son - John Cann Taylor - 26 July 1912 - 27 February 2004
FIND A GRAVE
Burial: Hampden Memorial Estates Denver Denver County Colorado.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=155985654&ref=acom
Sandra
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Thanks. I did not see her Citizenship papers.
Ed
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I suspect Gloria S. Taylor (husband of John Cann Taylor)- 29 January 1914 - 4 September 2010
Burial: Hampden Memorial Estates Denver Denver County Colorado.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=taylor&GSiman=1&GScid=57320&GRid=155985688&
Sandra
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Thanks. I did not see her Citizenship papers.
Ed
You're welcome. No prob - ;)
Sandra
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I suspect Gloria S. Taylor (husband of John Cann Taylor)- 29 January 1914 - 4 September 2010
Burial: Hampden Memorial Estates Denver Denver County Colorado.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=taylor&GSiman=1&GScid=57320&GRid=155985688&
Sandra
Interesting that she shows up as Gloria S but in 1940 census she is shown as Gloria Consuelo
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Marriages for Saskatchewan are not searchable yet just births and deaths.
As you already know the date of the marriage and the names of both there should not be a problem getting it. You can print off a copy of the application and indicate that it is for genealogical research.
https://www.saskatchewan.ca/residents/births-deaths-marriages =and divorces
It is pricey $25.00 for basic and $50.00 for long copy, which should or might have parents names. They always seem to be backed up so it might take some time before you receive it.
Good luck
Lilybell
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I suspect Gloria S. Taylor (husband of John Cann Taylor)- 29 January 1914 - 4 September 2010
Burial: Hampden Memorial Estates Denver Denver County Colorado.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=taylor&GSiman=1&GScid=57320&GRid=155985688&
Sandra
Interesting that she shows up as Gloria S but in 1940 census she is shown as Gloria Consuelo
https://voterrecords.com/voter/1542982/taylor-kanne
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As you already know the date of the marriage and the names of both there should not be a problem getting it. You can print off a copy of the application and indicate that it is for genealogical research.
It is pricey $25.00 for basic and $50.00 for long copy, which should or might have parents names. They always seem to be backed up so it might take some time before you receive it.
Lilybell
Lilybell, it's worse than that. From the Saskatchewan Vital Stats website:
Genealogical Copy ($50.00) contains all of the information that appears on the original marriage registration and is stamped "FOR GENEALOGY ONLY".
That also applies to birth and death registrations too.
Jacquie
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I guess the info on that cert will remain a mystery
Ed
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I have the marriage certificate for my grandmother who married in the early 1920's and her parents names are on the certificate. As far as I know the prices I quoted are still in effect. I sent for my grandfathers first marriage cert a year ago and I paid the price I mentioned.
When I started out doing family research several years ago I was able to get some records for free from RM offices. But Saskatchewan changed all that a few years ago by telling all RM's they had to hand their BMD records into Saskatchewan Vital Statistics or be fined. Wonder what happened to those RM's who could not find their records because they got lost or destroyed over the year's
Has anyone noticed how long its taking to get marriages put on in Saskatchewan? Vital statistics are not without errors. We could not find a family relative because his wife spelled his surname wrong on the death record, eventually found it.
I wonder how long they lived in Saskatchewan. They could be mentioned in a history book which I have found to sometimes be a little treasure trove of information.
Lilybell
Lilybell.
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Is it possible to find the brides parents names for a marriage that occurred 23 Jun 1909 Battleford? The bride was an Elizabeth Cann. Her spouse was Tremmeling Richard Taylor. Info taken from 1913 Citizenship application for Tremmeling in Michigan
I have Elizabeth Cann in my tree if you still would like her info.
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Hi Judy
If you have info for Elizabeth I would appreciate it. I have no idea what became of her after the death of Tremmeling. Did she remarry? Where and when did she die?
Ed
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I corresponded with Gloria (Simancek) Taylor Apr. - June 2004 and saved the letters. We also spoke by phone several times. Elizabeth Elsey Cann's parents were James Cann (born 28 Feb 1858, Durham County, Clarke Township, Ontario, Canada and Sarah Ann Pickering (born 4 May 1855, Harwich Twp, Kent Co., Ontario, Canada James and Sarah were married 29 May 1884 in Middlesex, Ontario, Canada. Elizabeth Elsey Cann was born 18 Sep 1888 in Aylmer, Ontario. James was married prior but wife died in childbirth so Elizabeth had a half sister Stella Nancy.
To Gloria Taylor's knowledge and my research, Elizabeth never remarried. Elizabeth died 5 Dec. 1964 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. She was buried in St. Thomas Cemetery, St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada. The grave is recorded on Find a Grave but there is no supporting photo. Had requested one years ago, never received a reply. Perhaps there is no stone.
I do have pictures of this Cann family and of Elizabeth and Tremelling
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Thanks Julie. Much appreciated.
In case you do not have this Elizabeth was buried 12 Dec 1964 and Tremmeling was buried 18 Aug 1938.
One further question if you do not mind. Do you have a death date and place for son Edward Richard Taylor? I expect somewhere around Detroit. I have followed his wife but have problems with him.
Ed
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To Gloria Taylor's knowledge and my research, Elizabeth never remarried. Elizabeth died 5 Dec. 1964 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. She was buried in St. Thomas Cemetery, St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada. The grave is recorded on Find a Grave but there is no supporting photo. Had requested one years ago, never received a reply. Perhaps there is no stone.
Detroit Free Press
Detroit, Michigan
Thursday, December 10, 1964 - Page 58
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25589540/elizabeth_cann_taylorobit/
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I have Edward Taylor's death in Detroit, Aug. 1998, but not sourced. Cannot state as fact.
Thank you for the burial dates for Elizabeth and Tremelling!
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To Gloria Taylor's knowledge and my research, Elizabeth never remarried. Elizabeth died 5 Dec. 1964 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. She was buried in St. Thomas Cemetery, St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada. The grave is recorded on Find a Grave but there is no supporting photo. Had requested one years ago, never received a reply. Perhaps there is no stone.
Detroit Free Press
Detroit, Michigan
Thursday, December 10, 1964 - Page 58
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25589540/elizabeth_cann_taylorobit/
Wow, thank you!
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To Gloria Taylor's knowledge and my research, Elizabeth never remarried. Elizabeth died 5 Dec. 1964 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. She was buried in St. Thomas Cemetery, St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada. The grave is recorded on Find a Grave but there is no supporting photo. Had requested one years ago, never received a reply. Perhaps there is no stone.
Thanks from me also
Ed
Detroit Free Press
Detroit, Michigan
Thursday, December 10, 1964 - Page 58
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25589540/elizabeth_cann_taylorobit/
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I have Edward Taylor's death in Detroit, Aug. 1998, but not sourced. Cannot state as fact.
Thank you for the burial dates for Elizabeth and Tremelling!
US SSDI has Edward Taylor born 18 Mar 1917 and died Detroit 12 Aug 1998. Birth slightly different than that shown on Elizabeth's Petition for Citizenship
Ed
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I have Edward Taylor's death in Detroit, Aug. 1998, but not sourced. Cannot state as fact.
Thank you for the burial dates for Elizabeth and Tremelling!
US SSDI has Edward Taylor born 18 Mar 1917 and died Detroit 12 Aug 1998. Birth slightly different than that shown on Elizabeth's Petition for Citizenship
Ed
Here's something else that's off about Edward.
He and Mabel applied and were given a marriage license 13 Oct 1938 and were married on that same day in Indiana. The DOB is also slightly off from what's on the SSDI.
Married: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3LF-28H
BUT, in the Detroit newspaper 28 Sept. 1939 they are listed as applying for a marriage license? Were they married 1938 or 1939? Was the 1st one(1938) invalid?
Detroit Free Press
Detroit, Michigan
Thursday, September 28, 1939 - Page 24
(see attached)
Vital Statistic For Detroit
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Mabel died in 2002. The DOB matches what was on the marriage application.
SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBV7-8PY
Edward also died in Oakland County, despite that Detroit is listed as last place of residence on the SSDI.
Name: EDWARD TAYLOR
Death Date: 8/12/1998 Click here to order Death Certificate.
Location: OAKLAND
Name: MABEL TAYLOR
Death Date: 5/29/2002 Click here to order Death Certificate.
Location: OAKLAND
https://courts.oakgov.com/OakGnlg/Public.aspx