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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: sarah_robbo on Sunday 12 February 17 14:46 GMT (UK)
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Hello all,
I've spent all morning on the Harrisons in Marston Montgomery, Derbyshire and Uttoxeter, Staffs
I could do with having the relationships and family lines checking, because I am getting in a muddle!
I have marriage certificates back to Thomas and Sarah, which has William Harrison listed as his deceased father). It's when I get to Jane Furniss and back is when I am confused!
If you are on Ancestry my tree is here; http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/87236759/recent
So, I think my Harrison line - starting with my Great Granddad - is:
James Harrison (1896 - 1936)
son of:
James Harrison (1856 - 1938) and Martha Jenks (1861-1929)
son of:
Thomas Harrison (1843-1893) and Sarah Mycock (1829-1892)
son of:
William Harrison (1809- 1890) and Jane Furniss (1809-1866)
son of:
William? and Frances?
Any help will be MUCH appreciated - especially with William and Jane who spend a few census' apart! There seems to be lots of Harrisons around at the time.
S.
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James b 1896 - where was he born? the only one I can see with parents James and Martha that age was born Nottingham and living in London with family with Stafford connections - however can't see a James with mmn Jenks
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That's the right James (b1896) the James (b1856) was in the prison service and was based at Notts then Pentonvoille
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James b 1896 - where was he born? the only one I can see with parents James and Martha that age was born Nottingham and living in London with family with Stafford connections - however can't see a James with mmn Jenks
birth reg on GRO has MMN as JEANKS ::)
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Hi all - a little update and more questions for you! I know you like a challenge!
Had this advice from another geneolgy researcher recently and wanted more help from you wonderful people!
I'm sure I've got it back correctly until William and Jane's marriage....but I've done some changes past then....
William Harrison was born 1809 at Martson Mongomery and went on to marry Jane Furniss, that we know.
But there were two William Harrions born in Marston Montgomery in 1809.
The other one married Jane Allcock 3.12.1835 at Marston Montgomery and was a tailor who died in 1875.
So two baptisms for the year
William son of William and Frances 17 Sep 1809 and
William son of Mary Harrison single woman 31.3.1809.
One is the parent of William Harrison the tailor and one must be mine. As on some of the censuses William the tailor's birth is down as 1810 I'd guess he is the son of William and Frances and William is the son of Mary Harrison.
Looking at the dates they died in the years 1875 on 1st March and 11th March it would fit that your William was Mary's son.
Mary had another child Johannah 18.9.1817.
But as for her parents taking another look there's three of them.
Mary d of Rupert and Mary 21.1.2.1782
Mary d of John and Elizabeth 11.9.1785
Mary d of Thomas and Mary 5.2.1786.
It looks like all three are first cousins,there fathers being brothers born Rupert 4.12.1756,John 4.2.1753 ,Thomas 6.11.1747 and all children of Christopher and Ann Harrison.
*I believe Marys parents to be Thomas and Mary*
She must have married after 1817 but there are tons of Mary Harrisons getting married and none in Marston Montgomery.So it's difficult to find her marriage and subsequent death which would give her age to narrow it down.
There might be a bastardy order at the archives in Derbyshire.It's probably not the Rupert and Mary one because when Rupert dies his Admin goes to his daughter Sarah Cooper who is married by his death in 1815 but it could be either of the others.
Like I said. I think it's Thomas and Mary.
I really want to crack this!!
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I think you are probably right to discount the one with parents William & Frances - William the tailor has a daughter Frances ;)
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Hello all,
Thanks to some wonderful leads from folk on the forum, some of my Harrison tree looks like the attached picture. However. I'm getting frustrated and confused over how to verify and add to this progress pre census. I seem to hit walls on wills and probate etc.
Any advice and leads would be very much appreciated!
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Hi, we are doing some family research and looking for a Phyllis Nora Harrison who lived in Marston Montgomery around 1942. She was a worker of the land. We cannot find any other information about her and wondered whether you had come across her in your searches?
Many thanks for your time.
Thanks Rachel
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Hi Rachel
Welcome to rootschat
Where did you get the information about Phyllis and her occupation :-\
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Hi Rosie,
Many thanks for your reply. It's abit of a strange one and unusual. My partner is trying to trace information about their mother's family. Basically their mum was adopted in 1943 and on her birth certificate the name came back as Phyllis Nora Harrison of Marston Montgomery, Ashbourne Derbyshire. (Not sure if she was from Ashbourne itself originally) her occupation stated worker of the land - presuming farming or something along those lines during the war. My partner's mother has also found out she was one of a twin but unfortunately the twin died at 3 months and she has no memories of this from the children's Home. I guess the main reason for the research was to try and find out who the family was that she came from etc. Perhaps also to try and put a family tree together even if she hasn't had direct contact with them. APologies that I don't really bring much to the table to help you in your family search :-\
Thanks again for your time
Rachel.
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Thank you for the extra information, hopefully sarah_robbo will come back to their post and be able to help. We have to be careful what we discuss as we are not allowed to name living people.
Rosie
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Thanks for letting me know as wasn't aware of that but guess that it's quite understandable. ;) will await to see if anyone replys.
Thanks again
Rachel
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Hi
Has your partner had a DNA test done. That might help to make a few connections as the questions are being asked not to far back in time.
My HARRISON family comes from nearby Norbury but in the 20th century moved off in different directions
Sue
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Hello all,
I haven't come across that name in my research yet I'm afraid! Although I have 'rested' the Harrison Line from MM for q couple of months because I was going round In circles. My line also moved on from Derbyshire in 20th C - to staffs and some in London.
Good luck x