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Title: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: swinno on Friday 17 February 17 17:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have a Samuel John Swinnerton who was born abt 1880 Stoke on Trent.
Samuel was killed 25 Sep 1915, Loos, France.

It is said that Samuel had a son Harold.
What I dont know is what happened to Harold, where he was born or his mothers name.

Can anyone see Them?
Thanks,
bswinno.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: wrjones on Friday 17 February 17 17:57 GMT (UK)
I'm not seeing any marriage for a Samuel John,though there are marriages for a Samuuel witho0out the John.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: groom on Friday 17 February 17 18:11 GMT (UK)
Are you sure he was married? On the Register of Soldier's Effects, which gives his death as on 25.9.1915, he was a Private,Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Regimental Number 4055.  The sole legatee is his sister Mrs Polly Walker. This suggests that he wasn't married.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 17 February 17 18:11 GMT (UK)
On  UK Army Registers of Soldiers effects it is his sister that is mentioned Mrs Polly Walker so don't think he was married
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 17 February 17 18:12 GMT (UK)
Snap groom ;D
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: groom on Friday 17 February 17 18:16 GMT (UK)
Same conclusion!

If he did have a son, but wasn't married to his mother, the chances are that the son would have been registered under his mother's name, so it could be very difficult finding him.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 17 February 17 18:30 GMT (UK)
He is with his sister mentioned on the later census ..so no sign of a wife or son so as groom said his son will be very hard to find
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: swinno on Friday 17 February 17 22:24 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the replies to my request.
Lots there to think about.
bswinno.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: groom on Friday 17 February 17 22:27 GMT (UK)
Where did the information about the son come from?
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: swinno on Friday 17 February 17 22:30 GMT (UK)
From his family tree. I have asked the same question.
Title: Re: Harold Swinnerton.
Post by: groom on Friday 17 February 17 22:41 GMT (UK)
There is a John Samuel Swinnerton born about the same time, killed 1914, I wonder if they have got him mixed up?