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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Tees on Tuesday 21 February 17 17:37 GMT (UK)
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Dear Sir or Ma'am:
I am not an expert when it comes to Canadian records or Canada.
I just was informed that my great great grandfather George Thompson who was born in 1843 in Richmond, Yorkshire died in SASK in 1905. His second wife Mary née Storey died there in 1935.
I am wondering if the vital records index there is incomplete or it is complete.
I have no way of knowing if the death records are correct or not?
CAD$50 is a bit steep for a death certificate! :o
I would appreciate any help. I am wondering who did they (the couple) went with?
What years are the censuses in Canada?
Thanks!
Tees
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New information: Just found out a bit more looking at a Saskatchewan family history book: it says Margaret Story Thom(p)son moved to Saskatchewan with her daughters Margaret, Polly, Miria, Martha, and Hilda as well as sons Joe and George. They farmed in Balcarres, Saskatchewan Canada. Sarah came with her mother to Canada in 1902 and moved to Saskatchewan in 1905.
It sounds like George Thompson died in England, not in Canada? Your thoughts?
I am waiting for more information from my Thompson relatives. Surprised that the surname changed to Thomson??
All the information tallied with my side---especially 1901 Census I have on this family. One bonus is that they confirmed that there were TWO sons.
I do hope someone could help me with this Canadian side to see if he did die in Canada or in England.
I think it is odd since he was not in any burial indexes up in Yorkshire--he was not buried with his first wife.
I am still puzzled as to why Thompson relatives said he died in 1905? But he was not with the family as mentioned?
Looking forward to hear from your input and expertise on Canadian side. The question here is the emigration records reliable?
Thanks again!!!
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A book on Ituna-Hubbard area of Saskatchewan has a write-up on Joseph Thompson and wife Eleanor Bertha Ditch. Joseph born Oct 25, 1880 Yorkshire. Came to Canada in 1901 and went first to Sanford, Manitoba crossed the border to North Dakota for work and then back to Estevan Saskatchewan. Parents had also settled in Sanford Manitoba and he applied for a Homestead in the Tullymet area of Saskatchewan for his mother when he moved to the Balcarres area in 1904.
Father died before mother moved to area. Most likely George died in Manitoba. Sanford is in the Rural Municipality of MacDonald.
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A George Thompson died in 1906 in Manitoba aged 70. The place of death is MacDonald. I believe the cost of a death certificate is only $12.00.
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My George Thompson was born in 1843. Won't that be a bit off if the age is different? Do we know for certain he did came to Canada?
How are we sure about this is the ONE? The reason I ask is that there is no record of his second wife died in 1935 in SASK?
Many thanks for your help!!! I will send for the death certificate since the cost is reasonable!
If it is the right one, I would love to treat you to a pint. :)
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http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=1046934&qryID=47bbc43e-a94c-4779-89d1-3b587751fe88
Link to book entry on Joseph Thompson. British census does show George Thompson's son born in Yarm. It also appears that George's wife shows up on British census as Margaret from 1881 to 1891 and only in 1901 is she enumerated as Mary. There is a Dec 1876 Guisbro' 9d 1022 marriage between Margaret Storey and George Thompson.
This ties in with 1921 census for Tullymet, Saltcoats, Sask.
Joseph Thompson 40 born 1881 England emigrated 1902 with wife Eleanor Bertha 30.
Children George William (7), Margaret Storey (5), Henry Ditch (4) and Eleanor May (2). Also in household is Margaret Thompson, widow, 76 born England, emigrated 1903. Shown as mother-in-law which probably means Eleanor gave the information and used her relationship to her rather than the head of the house - Joseph.
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Cosmac,
Awesome! I am impressed that there is a lot of information in that book! It answered my question as to how they managed to become farmers!
All the information is correct and tied in with what I have on this family. That 1901 England Census is correct.
Sorry for George Thompson as he did not get to live out his life in a new country.
Thank you SO MUCH for the quick reply! I will send for the death certificate. As soon as I get it, you will be the first person to know!
Kind regards,
Tees
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Love the books published by ourroots. They are invaluable in searching for family since so much is protected by privacy laws in Canada. Hopefully the Manitoba death proves to be yours.
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Parisian leaving Liverpool arriving Halifax 18 Dec 1903. On board Margaret Thompson 50 and children Maria 21, Mary 18, Martha 11, Hila 11, George 9. Born Yorkshire and destination Winnipeg.
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Possibility for George's arrival into Canada
George Thompson ticket #2207 departing Liverpool arriving Montreal 05 Jun 1903 on the Canada. Age shown as 56, from Yorkshire, no arrival destination entered.
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Fascinating tidbit! It could be him. Didn't you see any Thompson travelling with him?
According to a Thompson descendant, his wife travelled with his daughter Sarah Anne (I am not sure if she is married at this point or not).
You were big help. I am hopeful that the death certificate will answer our question. I am working on the angle that he might had died in England prior to his wife and daughter coming to Canada. Surprised you find the information that conflicted with the information Thompson descendant stated. Very interesting!! Where is Sarah Anne? I will ask the descendant if she was already married at the time of emigration or not?
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I did see a Sarah Thompson travelling with an older Hannah Thompson both going to Manitoba. I would have to refind that.
Lots of my oral history had grains of truth that made it easy to begin looking but their "facts" were not supported.
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I would have to agree with you about the oral history. I did enquire with the Vital Statistics in Manitoba and they would not confirm whether the death record is my ancestor's or not. I will send the form in and I am more than confident that you are spot on.
I am surprised that Margaret and the children would emigrate by themselves. Then, George Thompson emigrated later on.
That means Margaret and the children might have moved to SASK in 1906 shortly after George Thompson passed away. That means they did live in Manitoba for a bit more than two years since it took a long time to travel from the port to the western Canada via railway.
I shall keep you posted on the death certificate. I re-read SASK's vital statistic agency---it turned out that their death indexes only stop at 1917 and they are going to add more. That's why we could not verify whether Margaret died in 1935 or not.
How exciting that they emigrated to Canada.
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George went in June 1903 and family followed in Dec 1903. That seemed to be the usual practice.
Don't hold your breath on updates to Saskatchewan's vital statistics. I don't think they have added anything in years.
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Many thanks for wonderful information you found so far. I really appreciate it!! Suddenly, all of the pieces falling into the place.
I messaged a Thompson descendant and told her I would never thought about the emigration to Canada as it simply does not occur to me. Now I understand how dangerous it is to assume!
Will keep you posted on the death record.
May I ask you where you find these information besides that lovely book?
I am just pleased that I could find George Thompson after all. Happy that my brick wall has been crumbled since this Monday.
I will have to focus on two remaining brick walls on other branches.
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I think (maybe :)) that Sarah married a Frank CALVERT.
I kept looking at this census record and I'm fairly sure it's Margaret with son George:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHJJ-8V1
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Two for Frank and Sarah:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27XV-V8J
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMP6-C36
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cosmac-if you look at the 1921 census with Margaret on it-I think there's a CLEAL family on the same page-Jane Ann Stor*y CLEAL?
Sorry-my computer's in a bit of a mood today. Keeps crashing. >:(
Maureen
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MaureeninNY,
Yep, that is her---her great-granddaughter was the one whom I was talking with lately. :)
She married in Canada? But the census stated otherwise....they had a son who was born in England??? That means they were married in England.
That might be her with Hannah Thompson travelling to Canada as stated by Cosmac.
Will check the links.
Bless you for finding these details!
Gratefully yours,
Tees
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No-sorry-should have said Sarah appears to have married Frank CALVERT Jun Qtr 1901 Stockton-so just before they arrived in Canada.
I did wonder if Jenny CALVERT was the Jennie THOMPSON on the 1901 census living with George and family. Sarah's daughter-not theirs possibly.
Maureen
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MaureeninNY,
Wonderful!
I will have to get my files out and I remember my grandfather's brother's death was reported by a Thompson.
I would love to find out which Thompson she is. It stated that she was an aunt but I could not recognise her name....
Great! So this lot of Thompsons are related to us via George Thompson since they came from his second wife.
Then, it is very likely that the death record Cosmac found for me is the one.
Both of you are fascinating! I will keep both of you posted on the death certificate.
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The Cleal family noted by Maureen shows son George Robert.
Obituary at this link
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/vancouversun/obituary.aspx?n=george-cleal&pid=147796355
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http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy
From this link you can search for Cleal surname.
James Arthur Charles Cleal died 20 March 1973 Maple Ridge. Wife Jane Ann Calvert
Jane Ann Cleal died 12 Apr 1988 Maple Ridge. Maiden name of mother Storey. Father not known. She was 91 so born about 1897.
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Two births registered for Calvert in Saskatchewan with mother Sarah Ann Thompson and father Frankland Calvert
Joseph Frank 1906/7/11
Sidney Pickerin 1908/6/30
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Cosmac,
You are quick to find these information. You do know your way around Canadian records!! They will be passed onto my Thompson descendant.
Many thanks for confirming the details for me.
Do we have an emigration record on Sarah Ann Calvert nee Thompson? Did she emigrate with her husband Frank Calvert?
The picture is getting clear and clear every time you come up with information.
Thanks so much for your help with finding the information!
PS I like what BC did with their records. Surprised to read the actual certificate there.....
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BC has done much with their resources.
http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/64750614/photo/e1ba0a5e-f95c-433e-85f7-3a318d438316
Have you seen this site with many photos. It does link to an online ancestry tree. That says that Margaret Thompson died in 1937 at Ituna as a result of burns from a fire.
Usually I look for family trees but didn't this time.
I haven't found Sarah's entry into Canada yet.
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Cosmac,
I stupidly ended free subscription on Ancestry thinking it is not necessary to continue since I could access to two trees I saw on this site. But, I was not able to access the trees at all only I am able to message. Learnt a lesson here.
One of tree holders I am currently messaging with now, back and forth. It appears she was only relying on her aunt for the information and does not know much about Thompsons.
I saw the photos. They are lovely!!
These photos are not hers, but from someone else on other tree...not sure how she gets them. I did verify some information---most are accurate but need to correct a bit there and here.
Now you said Margaret Thompson died in 1937? Wow...she lived a long life! Poor her for suffering a terrible infliction.
I would have to figure out how to get a free trial subscription again.
Thanks for your help again!! These trees were the reason I posted here! I just was happy that I could break down the brick wall. I thought I am stuck because of too many George Thompsons in the same area in England!
I should know better because 1911 England Census clues me that this family "disappeared"....they were not but in another country!
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Possibility for George's arrival into Canada
George Thompson ticket #2207 departing Liverpool arriving Montreal 05 Jun 1903 on the Canada. Age shown as 56, from Yorkshire, no arrival destination entered.
I think daughter Sarah CALVERT arrived with 2 children on the same ship.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q39-248
Maureen
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I think you are right. Good catch.
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Cosmac,
Yes, you are right it was a good catch and that MaureeninNY has good eyes!
Now it just confirmed the information despite wrong year and wrong parent that Sarah Anne travelled with!
I am so happy that we could confirm the tree is "correct" and is related to us!
I posted the application form to the Vital Statistics Agency this evening. Just two minutes before they closed for the day!
I think I will wait less than three weeks before I get it in the post. I will share with you since both of you were high help to me!
By the way, I am wondering if Margaret is buried in SASK or in Manibota with her husband? Is it possible for us to check the cemeteries? Perhaps we would be lucky if the church would have some kind of burial records?
What do you think? I have no idea how things were done back then?
Thanks for all the help you have given me! I just am thrilled to break a brick wall!
Kind regards,
Tees
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https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=thompson&GSiman=1&GScid=2185253&GRid=172910377&
Guess your oral history was correct as to when Margaret died.
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Thanks, Cosmac, that is a brilliant finding!
So, it might mean my George Thompson might have died in December 1905 but was registered in January 1906?
I think there is a good chance he was buried in Manitoba. Which cemetery would that be in Sanford?
I have no idea that the oral history is correct....until you prove it.
We shall see when I get the death certificate.
Thanks for the finding!!!
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I don't think there are many cemeteries online in Manitoba. The Manitoba genealogy society probably has some references. Findagrave is getting more information online.
George William Thompson born 1892 Yarm served in WWI. Link to his attestation papers. This site is slowly digitizing and placing online the entire service file. Think they are up to M's now.
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I shall contact the genealogy society in MB.
Which website are we talking about in pertaining to his attestation papers?
Now I see why the tree got his name mixed up...it is his son who has a middle name of William! That was his grandfather's name.
Many thanks for your help!!!! I will share any findings with you and MaureeninNY.
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http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=264228
oops!
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Thanks for this link! Lovely seeing his signature!
Surprised they would allow short men in the army! I read somewhere that in late stage of the First World War, they started accepting short men due to the "shortage" of available tall men.
Surprised he is Methodist! Thought the family is Anglican.
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Hello Cosmac,
Wee update: I have written to Manitoba Genealogical Society today. I got a reply from them a few hours later.
The gentleman there found the same record as you did from the indexes. He said it will take up to 3 months to process an order! :o :o That probably is why the fee is so cheap?
He would not assist me any further unless I take up on a genealogical research for CAD$75 on the family. I explained to him that the family had left Manitoba to be with their son/brother in SASK after the father passed on.
I asked if I could look up on their cemeteries transcription. They have transcriptions on most cemeteries including Sanford. Or to purchase it, 26 pages long, for about CAD$7.50. I am awaiting for them to reply.
I did tell them that it is a bit rude to push $75 fee on me without asking few questions. It is nice if all the family is still in Manitoba but not in my case.
I am waiting for other society to contact me.
Hopefully, we will get a confirmation somehow. I think it is very likely George died in Sanford despite his incorrect age on that record. The gentleman there said the registration will tell us an exact date of his death despite it being indexed for 1906. In other words, it is not always the case it is in the same year.
Let's hope but 3 months' wait. I feel bad for both of you and me. I should have faxed if I had known that it will be 3 months' wait.
Kind regards,
Tees
PS I am waiting for a Thompson descendant to e-mail me the book where she got her information about her great-grandmother. Will share any information with you as a thank-you for all the help given me.
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Hello Cosmac,
I got another e-mail from same gentleman saying that there is no record of George Thompson being buried in Manitoba???
He said he does have some information on the family but wanted CAD$75.
That's my latest update.
Regards,
Tees
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I purchased one death certificate from Manitoba and it certainly didn't take three months. Less than one month which included the mailing time both ways. This wasn't anyone in my husband's direct line but pursuing proof of family of GGuncle. The cost made it an easy decision.
I had looked at the online search form for Manitoba Genealogy and it had 69 hits for the name George Thompson. Did he mean specifically your George Thompson wasn't found in RM MacDonald cemeteries.
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http://sabnewspapers.usask.ca/islandora/object/sab:newpaper
Database of some newspapers in Saskatchewan. The newspapers were very slow loading I didn't search to see if any might be helpful in your family.
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Hi Cosmac,
That is a good question. He would not say. Just that there is no George Thompson being buried in MB? That is how I interpreted it.
I would have to donate $10 to the organisation as I feel he is putting me on a guilt trip. I think they are strapped for money?
That's good that the death certificate does not take 3 months! I will keep you posted on the death record. I do hope it will tell us where he is buried if it is anything like American death certificate.
Is it possible that he died in ND when working with his son there?
Thank you for your message.
Kind regards,
Tees
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Hi Cosmac,
I think you would enjoy my only finding from a newspaper...please see the article on George Thompson's worries about his daughter is not coming....on 15 July 1903 in Manibota Free Press, Winnipeg newspaper.
He was staying with his relatives in Blythlleld.
Thanks,
Tees
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Good find. Lovely to have newspaper articles. Adds flavour to the family story.
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Hi Cosmac and MaureeninNY,
I just shared your findings on Shipping records and my only newspaper article I found last night with a Thompson descendant.
Interestingly, she sent me several pages out of the book similar to the book you found on Joseph Thompson on her great-grandmother Sarah Ann Thompson. I see why she thought Sarah Ann arrived with her mother because of this story in the book.
That is why I decided to share with her early---I was hoping to get all the documents together first then send onto her.
Tomorrow I will send that book pages Cosmac so kindly found for me onto her. Will highlight important information on what happened to George Thompson even if it is only few sentences.
Another interesting development is that when I read the attached pages from my Thompson descendant--I saw the photograph, the same one, that is on several trees on Ancestry. To my surprise, they are not who they are supposed to be. They are from Calvert side of her family! I asked her to verify that photograph again because a cousin did verify that they are from my side of family???
This is a good reason that everyone should label the photos for the future generations. I am fortunate that I did when my elderly relatives were still alive and they stated who's who in the photos. I have a family photograph no one could identify---only one photo. My Dad insisted that it is our relative but could not remember who he was!! I did suggest that it was his uncle---he said no. This uncle of his died very young. I think it is a good explanation since no one has met him in person or saw him personally as he died before all of my aunts and uncles including my Dad were born.
I am stuck with this photograph and I think he is a lovely gentleman!!
Is it possible for me to access original Census records from Canada? Think it would be nice to have actual records instead of transcriptions?
Again, thank you and MaureeninNY for all the help given in this matter.
Have a lovely weekend,
Tees
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Wonderful finds,Tees.
Here's the access to Canadian census records-except 1921:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
Good luck!
Maureen
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Hi MaureeninNY,
Thank you for the link. I was able to locate Margaret Thompson with her son and "niece" in that 1906 Census entry you found. The census was taken in June 1906--that makes sense now--she might have became a widow in 1906 between January and June.
I saw Jane (Jennie) Ann's birth certificate on the tree and the father's name was blank but her mother is Margaret Storey. But I am puzzled as to why she would called her her niece on 1906 Census??? I am certain George Thompson is her father because her birth date was too close to his first wife's death (if my memory serves me correctly, will confirm this tomorrow).
That record Cosmac found on the index has to be him. I will wait for it to arrive to see if we are right.
Cosmac, does early death records from MB note the burial information?
Sadly, I am unable to trace Margaret Thompson in 1911 and 1916. I will try and find her in 1921 on Ancestry sometimes tomorrow.
I think I had found her sons but I have to reread the pages Cosmac found for me on Joseph and not sure 100% about George yet.
The census MaureeninNY found on Calvert Family--I managed to find it without any issue.
This "disappearance" of Margaret Thompson made me wondering if she might have gone back to England to visit her family? Same with her "daughter" Jane (Jennie) Ann Storey/Thompson.
What do you think?
Tomorrow I will have to go through my Thompson file to see which documents I am going to share with the descendant.
I am just pleased that the original census clearly stated that it was taken in June 1906 which made a lot of sense now that her husband had passed before the census was taken since the indexes showed he died in 1906 (but we do not know for sure yet).
I will keep you the progress on this "case". I am mostly interested in George Thompson as he is my direct ancestor. But, it is very interesting to see where his children ended up in Canada and so on.
Kind regards,
Tees
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PS On 1906 Census page for Margaret Thompson, I found another daughter few lines down as a Mattie Thompson and emigrated in 1903. Think this is Martha?
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A marriage took place in Winnipeg 16/01/1907 between a MarthaThompson and Jerome Harris. Couldn't see them in any further documentation yesterday.
This morning I looked at family trees on ancestry and saw that someone has this Margaret Thompson with your parents married to J.E. Harris. She then marries Asa Wilson 2 Dec 1916 in Lincoln South Dakota and on the census she is enumerated in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Her date of death is given as 30 Nov 1979 in Washington, D.C. Daughters Hester Margaret born 1911 and Lorna Irene 1917-1991. Haven't followed this information by looking at documents.
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jl5/
Obituary for Wilson
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKPB-FST
1910 census for J.E. Harris, Martha and Hester M.
J.E. Harris born Maryland
1930 Census for Sioux Falls Hester M. and Lorna are enumerated with the Low family. Hester is shown as being born in Indiana and her father born Maryland.
E.J. Harris died @42 7/24/1917 Lincoln South Dakota
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http://memorial.obittree.com/obituary/us/michigan/holland/lakeshore-memorial-services-inc/margaret-i-geegh/44327/
Obituary for Margaret Geegh - sister to Raymond and aunt of Wilson Geegh. 1940 census for Washington shows Hester M with husband Raymond and young son Wilson.
Hester died in Jan 1984 and is buried in Illinois.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=geegh&GSfn=hester&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=118866002&df=all&
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Hi Cosmac,
Fascinating trove of information you found!
I asked for your advice or opinion regarding Margaret Thompson nee Storey's "disappearance" between 1911 and 1921 censuses. I am trying to understand this.
I was able to find her sons in 1916 on the same census page in the same area (I meant the actual census papers but both of you were a big help with using Family.org---I am using it now). But, where is she? I thought she had a homestead which was applied by her son Joe as stated in the family history you so kindly found for me.
Or is it same with my maternal great grandfather who I could not find in 1900 US census? Some names were badly transcribed or pages missing?
Or that Margaret Thompson nee Storey went back to England to visit her family? Tonight I will have to find that census I think I have on her to see names of her siblings. Same with Jane Ann Calvert---she appeared to fall off as well. But, MaureeninNY found her with her husband and a child in 1921 Canada Census. (That means I will have to wait for a free trial subscription or to save up a bit of money to purchase a monthly subscription.)
Again, thank you so much for wonderful information. By the way, the link on Wilson only takes me to Ancestry.com, is that right?
Thanks,
Tees
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The link for Wilson obituary was from an ancestry page. I take it you can't access it?
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ebner&GSiman=1&GScid=49269&GRid=49177160&
Lorna Irene (nee Wilson) is buried with husband John at Arlington National Cemetery as he served in WWII.
His obituary
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/washingtonpost/obituary.aspx?n=john-ebner&pid=18424868
As to where Margaret is on census dates. Some names are as you say horribly mangled and hard to pull up on a name search. Some are missing for whatever reason. On the 1921 census I know some relatives of my husband were residing in a specific area but even going through the census page by page couldn't locate them.
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Wilson obit
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Thank you for the obituary on Martha Wilson, Cosmac! Lived to 91---quite a milestone! Is it normal for the obituary to omit the date of death? Most obituaries I read usually include that information.
Will be in touch with you soon with the information I have on Thompsons back in England. I think I do have a census on Margaret Storey's family. Hope I do have it.
Thanks again!!
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Tees, you might check if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition. This should give access to most records, but not family trees, if I remember correctly.
The Manitoba Vital Stats index has a marriage in RM Macdonald for a Maria Thompson to a Frederick Keisig, 07/04/1904. Perhaps another daughter's marriage?
PB
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Sounds like it would be part of the family.
http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=1046635&qryID=488d53d5-46d2-4709-8ae5-5b47a5f23f25
Family writeup from Ituna-Hubbard book
1921 census Tullymet, Saltcoats
Fred Keisig, 50 born Ontario, Maria 39, born Eng emigrated 1904
Children George Frederick 16, born Man, Edward 15 born Sask, Minnie 13 born Sask, Miria 11 months born Sask.
1916 also in Tullymet, Saltcoats area
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansacem/balcarres.html
Maria died in 1969. Husband in 1943
Images at findagrave Balcarres cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=2217527&GSfn=&GSln=keisig
Daughter Maria's middle name was Story according to an online tree. Sent the owner a link to this thread.
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I ordered a marriage certificate from Manitoba in the Fall and waited 10 to 12 weeks for it to arrive. My cheque was cashed within 2 to 3 weeks of sending it. When I hadn't received the certificate by about week 6, I phoned Manitoba Vital Stats and was told it could be up to 3 months. I think they may just do batches every so often.
So unfortunately you may be waiting for awhile.
Susan
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Hello
I just came across all your messages regarding George William Thompson. He is actually my Great Grandfather as well. Joseph Thompson is my Grandfather and James Arthur Thompson is my father. I have loved some of the new information that I have learned from reading your messages. I still have lots of relatives (Thompsons, Dixons, Martins) that still live in the Balcarres, Ituna area.
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My late husband grew up in the Ituna, SK district and I do remember hearing the names Thompson and Martin in the area.
Good luck with your research.
Susan
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I am a few months late on this thread. I was on holidays when the link was sent to me. But yes, Maria Thompson marries Fred Keisig of Tullymet, Sask. Their daughter Maria Storey Keisig married James Harvey McConnell. They are my aunt and uncle. This is the same family as in the thread.
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Hello All Who Replied,
My apologies for not getting back to you for I did not get any notifications from RC!?
Good news is that the death record is here which we are waiting for so long! Susano is correct that it will take up to 3 months which is the correct length of waiting I have experienced!
Well, sadly, the death record does not state the date of death.
It stated:
George Thompson
no date of death Just a cross
Place of Death: Sanford
Male
Age: 70 (not right age but that is to be expected in those days)
Occupation or Calling: Labourer
Religious Denomination: Roman Catholic (Sounds right but he was originally CoE but somehow became Catholic when married to his first wife (my great great grandmother))
Where born: England (wish more specific)
Cause of Death: Suddenly
Name of Physican: None mentioned
Informant & Residence: Martha Thompson, Sanford (he does have a daughter named that with his second wife)
Registered when: January 28, 1906
Name of Clerk: H. Grolls or Grills
Is there any way we could verfiy that this is my great great grandfather's death record??
I think it is a bit strange that he would be considered Roman Catholic when he married his second wife in CoE??? Ummm....
I would welcome any advice on this. I do hope we could close the chapter on this particular ancestor.
Hard to believe that they would record his death without the date of death.
As to Ducky1, you are more than welcome to PM me directly--that goes the same for other relatives.
Delighted to hear from all of you.
Thank YOU for your patience and waiting for me to get back to you with new information.
Kind regards,
Tees
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Hello to the newcomers and a warm welcome to RootsChat :). Newcomers generally need to make 3 posts (sometimes works after 2) before they can use the PM (Private Message) system. Posts to just say "Hi" work fine.
PB
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Thank you for "correcting" me and PB is correct that you need to reply at least three times to any post before you could PM anyone including me.
Thank you for taking time to help me out, PB.
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Hard to believe that they would record his death without the date of death.
I haven't read through all this thread to know if George had family living with him, but I have run into this before and it turned out (through newspaper articles) that the deceased keeled over from a heart attack, but wasn't found for several days, so they couldn't put a date of death, just the year.
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Hello bbart,
That is news to me. Every day one do learn something news, don't we?
Thank you so much for sharing this interesting tidbit with me and other RCers!
Would that means his death be in the newspapers? I did tried to search but turned up no news with an exception for that a wee article on him being panicked for his daughter's supposedly missing arrival.
Hope someone here will help us with this line of inquiry. I do not know how unusual for not having a date of death back then.
Kind regards,
Tees
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Is it OK to post the death certificate here? Or is that No-No on Rootschat?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Tees
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Wondering if no replies to my post means it is dead? I regret that I missed out on new relatives' posts. I think it was odd that I did not get any notifications until I logged on with new information for this post. :'(
If so, should I lock this post?
I welcome any friendly advice.
Thanks,
Tees
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why not post the certificate. you bought it, own it. see no problem with sharing.
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Hello Cosmac!
Good to hear from you. Many, many thanks for your help with finding the death certificate on George Thompson and other information as well!!
I will put up the certificate here later on tonight.
Meanwhile, what do you make of the death certificate information? Do you think we have him?
I would love to know why he was put down as a Catholic when he married Margaret Storey in the Church of England?? Yet, he did marry my great great grandmother in a Catholic church. He was baptised in the Church of England.
It would be lovely if the relatives here who replied could verify if this death certificate is him or not and one thing that might be a big help to me is if there is old family bible that could confirm his death in Canadian Thompson family. I do not know if there is a bible or not. But, I think it will be very useful.
If the birthplace is more specific, we can verify easily.
I welcome your opinion/expertise.
Gratefully yours,
Tees
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Hello all of you who followed this post,
I have not forgotten about posting a death certificate on this post. I do not know if it is OK to do that or not.
Also, I had a medical situation that forced me to be hospitalised for a few days then recuperating at home. If all goes well, I will be declared healthy in two weeks' time. That's why I did not keep in touch with this post.
Also, it appears some of Canadian repliers have not contacted me or made any attempts to reply to this post.
This made me wondered if I should stop posting here and be done with this post? Please advise.
Many, many thanks to all who replied and helped me with breaking through a brick wall! :))
Kind regards,
Tees
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There are other threads where people post certificates they've purchased from ScotlandsPeople so your Manitoba death certificate would be no different.
Perhaps the death certificate might prove useful.
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Still following this thread, just haven't found any new info to add.
Looking forward to seeing the death cert.
PB
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Hello All of You Who Followed this Post,
Sorry it took me so long in getting round to post this death record.
Here it is.
I do not know if we could verify this record to see if this is the right one or not.
It would be great if our Canadian Thompsons have a Bible to show his date of death even if it did not show the actual day but month and year will be helpful. OR stated where he died.
Hope you enjoy the death record I put up here.
Regards,
Tees
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https://billiongraves.com/grave/George-Thompson/23792895 (https://billiongraves.com/grave/George-Thompson/23792895)
To Whom All Have Helped and Followed this Topic,
This is the very grave we are looking for! Someone kindly inserted the wee marker for our George Thompson.
Surprised it says he died in February 1906 whereas his death record shows it was registered on 28th Jan 1906? I think February is when they buried him?
Hopefully, someone who have a Facebook account could login and see what information they have on George Thompson. I do not have Facebook account.
Cosmac was spot on about George Thompson died in Sanford, MB! Heaps of thank goes to him!
I would have to go back and re-read all the pages for this topic to see if he did came to Canada in 1901. I think so.
The obituary or death notice in the newspaper would be great but we do not know what happened to him. I am intrigued as to how or what happened to him.
Kind regards and many thanks for all the help you have given me with the lead on George Thompson,
Tees