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Title: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 00:05 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather, William Carr or Kerr was born in Ireland in 1826 according to his death certificate which was issued in Buffalo, NY.  I believe that he was born in Belfast and that he has a sister by the name of Mary Ann Cassidy.  I believe he may have been a stray in England in 1841. He became a citizen of US in 1868.  He was a ropemaker in the US.  I cannot find any info as to birth or marriage certificate. His sister lived at 12 Tern St., Victoria Down according to the 1901 Census.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 23 February 17 01:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Marg,

"My great grandfather, William Carr or Kerr was born in Ireland in 1826"

"His sister lived at 12 Tern St., Victoria Down according to the 1901 Census"

You don't say who Mr Cassidy is?

The marriage may give her father's name & occupation?


Annie



Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 01:18 GMT (UK)
I don't know Mr. Cassidy's name.  This is my first time on this site.  How would I move my post to the Ireland Down board?
Title: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 01:47 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather, William Carr or Kerr was born in Ireland in 1826 according to his death certificate which was issued in Buffalo, NY.  I believe that he was born in Belfast and that he has a sister by the name of Mary Ann Cassidy.  I believe he may have been a stray in England in 1841. He became a citizen of US in 1868.  He was a ropemaker in the US.  I cannot find any info as to birth or marriage certificate. His sister lived at 12 Tern St., Victoria Down according to the 1901 Census.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 01:49 GMT (UK)
Sorry I posted here.  I think I have it now.  I re-posted to Ireland Down.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 23 February 17 01:56 GMT (UK)
Sorry,

I will ask a Mod to merge them  ;)

Annie
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 23 February 17 02:04 GMT (UK)
Have added to my 1st reply so the topic will now be merged by a Mod when they get the message I sent  ;)

Annie
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: sarah on Thursday 23 February 17 10:58 GMT (UK)
Topics have been merged :)
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 11:06 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather, William Carr or Kerr was born in Ireland in 1826 according to his death certificate which was issued in Buffalo, NY.  I believe that he was born in Belfast and that he has a sister by the name of Mary Ann Cassidy.  I believe he may have been a stray in England in 1841. He became a citizen of US in 1868.  He was a ropemaker in the US.  I cannot find any info as to birth or marriage certificate. His sister lived at 12 Tern St., Victoria Down according to the 1901 Census.

Mary Ann Cassidy in 1901 census- age 70, Presbyterian, born Belfast, widowed-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Tern_Street/1219499
Why do you think that Mary Ann Cassidy was William's sister?

Possibly same Mary Ann Cassidy in 1911 census although she's 15 years older than in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Mourne_Street/222462

A Jane Cassidy married (1891 Belfast) James Campbell- her father John Cassidy, weaver-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10681/5892754.pdf
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 12:14 GMT (UK)
This marriage looks interesting- John Cassidy m.(1853 Belfast) Mary Anne Gelston, daughter of a Robert Kerr-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXD-VVF

Marriage certificate should give her father's name and occupation
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 18:31 GMT (UK)
First of all thank you to Annie & Sarah for helping me get started on rootschat!

Annie you asked me why I think that Mary Ann Cassidy was William Carr's(Kerr) sister.  I have a letter from Mary Anne's son which was written inn 1895 to the wife of William, Eliza, stating that his mother, lived at 12 Tern St. Ballymacassett and that she was 70 yrs. old.  He also stated in this letter that William has 2 sisters, his mother and Jennie and one brother Hugh.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Thursday 23 February 17 18:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you to aghadowey......that info does look very interesting.  Wonder where the Gelston came from. :)
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 19:53 GMT (UK)
Wonder where the Gelston came from. :)
Gelston is probably the name of her husband before she married Cassidy but the marriage certificate would confirm if she was a widow.

Annie you asked me why I think that Mary Ann Cassidy was William Carr's(Kerr) sister.  I have a letter from Mary Anne's son which was written inn 1895 to the wife of William, Eliza, stating that his mother, lived at 12 Tern St. Ballymacassett and that she was 70 yrs. old.  He also stated in this letter that William has 2 sisters, his mother and Jennie and one brother Hugh.
The reason I asked why you thought Mary Ann Cassidy was William's sister was to make sure you were searching for the correct family.
'Ballymacassett' is Ballymacarret- even though a portion of Belfast is in Co, Down the queries for it belong on Antrim board.

Will be back later (as long as electric doesn't go out) with hoepfully a bit more information.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 22:33 GMT (UK)
Haven't found much else yet but here's Mary Ann Cassidy's death in 1919-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05164/4424361.pdf
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: scotmum on Thursday 23 February 17 22:44 GMT (UK)
Quote from: aghadowey

A Jane Cassidy married (1891 Belfast) James Campbell- her father John Cassidy, weaver-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10681/5892754.pdf

There is a January 1898 death notice in the Larne Times for a John C Campbell, aged 2yrs and 7 months, at 12 Tern Street, who was son of late James Campbell.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 23:09 GMT (UK)
There is a January 1898 death notice in the Larne Times for a John C Campbell, aged 2yrs and 7 months, at 12 Tern Street, who was son of late James Campbell.

John Cassidy Campbell death- grandmother Mary Ann Cassidy was informant-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05843/4655141.pdf
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Sunday 26 February 17 00:30 GMT (UK)
aghadowney

Thank you so much for the additional info on Mary Ann Cassidy's death and also the death of her grandson John C. Campbell.  How did you get into the Larne Times to view that obituary?  I tried but couldn't seem to find it. 

Thank you again, I am so excited to find this information.  I love this rootschat!
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Sunday 26 February 17 00:33 GMT (UK)
scotmum
 
Thank you so much for the info that you posted on the death of John C. Campbell.  I have really made some progress in just the few days that I have posted on Rootschat.

Marge
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Saturday 04 March 17 04:08 GMT (UK)
aghadowey

Could you please tell me how you accessed the Larne Times to see the death notice for John Campbell?

Thanks
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 March 17 07:26 GMT (UK)
If you read back through the thread you'll see exactly who posted what  ;)
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: mwylie on Monday 06 March 17 03:18 GMT (UK)
The paper was called the Larne Times and Weekly Reporter - had maybe 4 pages for Larne news and the rest was from anywhere!
In the 1911 census for Mourne St, Belfast, Mary Ann Cassidy's daughter Jane Walker was living with her - this daughter, born 22 Feb 1866 in Club Row, Ballymacarrett, was Jane Cassidy, parents John Cassidy, weaver, and Mary Ann KERR.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: mwylie on Monday 06 March 17 17:02 GMT (UK)
John Cassidy and Mary Ann Kerr had a son John born 12 October 1868, also in Club Row, Ballymacarrett.

A Connolly Cassidy died in 1864 aged 63 in Belfast.
Title: Re: William Carr or Kerr
Post by: margek on Wednesday 08 March 17 23:57 GMT (UK)
mwylie

Thank you so much for the information on the Cassidy children. I believe Connolly Cassidy was John's father.

Marge