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Title: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Thursday 23 February 17 09:53 GMT (UK)
I am searching for 3 of my 1/2 sisters from my fathers 1st marriage, I don't know their names or any info... I believe I may have a 1/2 brother as well. All I know is my fathers name, he passed in 2006 and i never met any of his family... What do I do?
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: philipsearching on Thursday 23 February 17 10:01 GMT (UK)
Greetings, and a warm welcome to Rootschat

Rootschat have a strict policy of not naming living people, so we may not be able to help much.  However, we can give pointers.

Was your dad's first marriage (and the children's births) before 1983?  If so, a good place to start would be https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ where you can search for when and where his marriage was registered.  This would give you the name of his first wife.  Then a search on the same site for children using both parent's surnames could give you more information.

Let us know (without naming names) how this goes, and we can suggest what the next steps could be.

All the best
Philip
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 23 February 17 12:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn Nite

As your father has passed away, you can put all known details of him on here.

Once you have done that, the Personal Message system will open up allowing you to talk off-line with anyone wishing to help you.
(It may take a further public post to open up the PM system.
In wich case, just post a smiley)

Regards, and WELCOME to Rootschat.

Ray

Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 23 February 17 13:06 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if the 2nd marriage cert. would give name of who previous wife was?

Annie
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: larkspur on Thursday 23 February 17 13:13 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if the 2nd marriage cert. would give name of who previous wife was?

Annie

No.....
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 23 February 17 13:29 GMT (UK)
A warm welcome to Rootschat Jenn Nite  :)

As mentioned to use the personal message system you have to make at least three posts
click here http://surname.rootschat.com/help-pages/pms.php  if you want further info. about using the system.


As your father has passed away, you can put all known details of him on here.


Please let us know if you'd rather not mention his name on the forum and we can send you
a PM for further details regarding your father once you have made the required number of posts  :)

Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 13:33 GMT (UK)
I am searching for 3 of my 1/2 sisters from my fathers 1st marriage, I don't know their names or any info... I believe I may have a 1/2 brother as well. All I know is my fathers name, he passed in 2006 and i never met any of his family... What do I do?

Welcome from me, too  :)

The advice given is for England but if you can let us know what country and idea of dates we'll be able to give more exact advice and suggestions for you.

Although the Help pages says you need 3 posts to use PM (Personal Message) system it often works after 2 posts  ;)
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 23 February 17 13:37 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if the 2nd marriage cert. would give name of who previous wife was?

No.....

Thanks Larkspur,

I know Scottish deaths give previous wife/husbands names but not sure on marriage as I haven't had one yet  :-\

Annie
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 23 February 17 14:29 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if the 2nd marriage cert. would give name of who previous wife was?

Annie

I have a marriage certificate (1905, London) showing my 2xgt.aunt as "divorced wife of......."
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: philipsearching on Thursday 23 February 17 14:38 GMT (UK)
Well, Jenn Nite - you can see that there are many Rootschatters here to help!

I should have mentioned that my suggestion of using https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ was for England and Walers - sorry if that caused any confusion.

Philip
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:29 GMT (UK)
Just wanna say thank u to all who are helping me!
 Yes it was before 1983.
My fathers name is Thomas John Zingarella.  I can easily find plenty of info concerning my mother & I but nothing on his 1st marriage or children ... Im lost and really wanna find my siblings
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:39 GMT (UK)
How old was he when he died, and do you believe he was born in this country?

Thank-you
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:42 GMT (UK)
??
US Social security applications and claims:
Thomas John Zingarella
Birth Date:   21st May 1923 at Passaic Pass, New Jersey
Died 5 June 2006   Father  Michael Zingarella   Mother  Mary Vennere

Lots of information on war service?
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:43 GMT (UK)
He was 83 and yes he was born in new jersey
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:46 GMT (UK)
Yes, just noticed where you are based on your profile and it is not England and Wales.

Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:47 GMT (UK)
Is Agnes his first or second wife?
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:49 GMT (UK)
Wow! Must be his first... My mother Carol Treece was the 2nd! How did you find that? Ive not been able to find her name! ?!?
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:55 GMT (UK)
Ancestry.

US City Directories
1947
Thomas J Zingarella
at 299 Newbury  Boston, Massachusetts, USA

with Agnes E on same line, and bus opr h as abbreviation (for occupation presumably)

Sorry, have to go to work.  Others can find more once we know which country to look in.
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 06:57 GMT (UK)
He was born in the US & his parents in Italy, I don't know about Agnes, my siblings were US as well! THANK YOU SO MUCH
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 07 March 17 07:08 GMT (UK)
Possibly on 1940 census (age 19) with parents, siblings etc , sorry, got to go.
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 07 March 17 08:38 GMT (UK)
Haven’t got access to world on Anc*y but there’s a divorce Broward, Florida
Thomas John Zingrella spouse Agnes
Source Florida, Divorce Index. 1927 - 2001


from family search they divorced 29 Aug 1973
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VK37-M34

I wonder if this person might be a son of Thomas & Agnes
born 1955 died 1984 Broward, Florida
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jnb/

you probably already knew Thomas' address 13 Nov 2000
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jnc/


Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 08:47 GMT (UK)
The info yall have found for me is already incredible!  Now if we could just find their children!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 07 March 17 09:10 GMT (UK)
Was he buried in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United States 2006?
There's an obituary newspaper South Florida Sun-Sentinel which can be accessed on family search but you need to sign in (free) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKK5-GM9Z
is it possible his children names might be mentioned there











Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 07 March 17 09:28 GMT (UK)
chempat mentions Thomas' wife Agnes E

It would be great if we could confirm Agnes maiden name and an idea of when she was born?
She may have remarried?

Posting these details just in case they may be relevant..........

There is this death for an Agnes C Zingarella born c1916 - her obituary
newspaper South Florida Sun-Sentinel 23 Apr 2007 Event Place Fort Lauderdale, Florida
no mention of husbands name but gives details of parents surname COTTER , siblings,
her children 4 daughters, 1 son etc.....
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK28-VFJS
death index https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VS95-S4Z

Agnes' middle name is Cotter
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKLM-QCCS
1916 birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:23YQ-V4T
1940 Wakefield Town, Middlesex, Massachusetts Agnes COTTER
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4FB-84K
1930 Wakefield Town, Middlesex, Massachusetts Agnes E COTTER
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQP5-N21

this gives Agnes dob as 26 Jan 1916
residence 01 Jul 2007 Residence Place Hollywood, Florida, United States
and possible relatives Thomas
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KL42-564
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 07 March 17 10:20 GMT (UK)
Hi, and welcome from me too.

Here is the full newspaper obituary for Agnes C Zingarella (the index on Familysearch was posted by Ladyhawk).

You could try emailing/calling the memorial home and ask if they would pass your contact details on to the family.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2007-04-23/news/0704230150_1_mr-auld-fort-lauderdale-wilton-manors/4
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 10:32 GMT (UK)
You guys are absolutely amazing... I thought my entire life I had 3 sisters and 1brother, turns out I have 4 sisters! I now know their names and birthdays & im currently searching frantically to locate them! Thank you all so very much!
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 07 March 17 10:38 GMT (UK)
Good luck with your search.  Please let us know if you locate them, we would love to hear the outcome :)
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 10:43 GMT (UK)
I absolutely will! Im completely astonished at what a few hours on this site has revealed.  Ive searched so long for this information and now I finally have it! Im overcome with joy and gratitude!
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 07 March 17 10:54 GMT (UK)
Jenn,

I'm delighted to hear of your joy and gratitude of how people have helped you so far on RootsChat. Brilliant stuff - and welcome to RootsChat.

If you can, please spread the word about our site so that we can help more people discover their ancestry.

Warm wishes,
Trystan
RootsChat Co-founder
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 11:05 GMT (UK)
I will most definitely spread the word! I cannot begin to express my  gratitude for all the help & time each and everyone of you dedicated to me in my search for my siblings. I truly am thankful!
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 07 March 17 11:17 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jenn - that would be brilliant.

Trystan
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jenn Nite on Tuesday 07 March 17 11:56 GMT (UK)
I have now located and made attempts to contact 3 of my 4 sisters! For the 1st time in 38 years I have names for all & pictures for 3! What an amazing feeling to finally see the faces of my sisters that ive dreamed of my entire life!
 There are no words to express how I feel right now,  and no way possible to thank all of you who made this possible!  WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING I THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 07 March 17 13:00 GMT (UK)

I love a happy ending.   :D
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 07 March 17 14:30 GMT (UK)

I have now located and made attempts to contact 3 of my 4 sisters! For the 1st time in 38 years I have names for all & pictures for 3!

What an amazing feeling to finally see the faces of my sisters that ive dreamed of my entire life!

There are no words to express how I feel right now,  and no way possible to thank all of you who made this possible!  WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING I THANK YOU!!!

Hello Jenn Nite

I'm so very very happy for you  :)
Title: Re: Searching for 1/2 siblings
Post by: Jool on Wednesday 08 March 17 00:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn Nite,

I too am so happy for you.  Rootschat is an amazing community of people who love to help people with their family history, and are thrilled when the people they help finally get the result they were hoping for.  :D