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Looking for data on James Nuttall Boothman. D.O.B not known, died 18 July 1909. He was a former Mill Owner of Hopkins Mill in Brief field near Blackburn, served as Mayor of Blackburn for 2 consecutive terms , 1890 - 1892. Believed to have constructed Swansey Mill in Clayton-le-Woods, near Chorley and the construction of The Pines, his stately home on Preston Road in Clayton Green. This was converted into a hotel and restaurant a new is probably one on few remaining mill owners mansions left in the central Lancashire area which is now under threat of demolition for housing and shopping and really should be listed.
Any thing on either subjects greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
James' death record gives his birth year as 1834.
Probate -
James Nuttall Boothman of The Pines Clayton Green died 18 July 1909. Probate to Jane Boothman (widow) and Lawrence Cotton, cotton manufacturer. Effects - £197979 0s 1d
It would appear that James' will was contested by his niece Mrs Martha Clayton saying James was not of sound mind when the will was drawn up.
Lawrence Cotton's father helped James in 'starting life' (Source - Dundee Courier 01 June 1910)
JJ
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There is a newspaper article about James recording that in 1859 James Nuttall Boothman went to Blackburn and started work as a weaver in a local mill. His first weeks money amounted to 10s 7d, he rose to the post of overlooker and then manager. He then finally started a business for himself.
JJ
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Link to an article that could be of interest to you -
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19100716.2.104.20
JJ
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1861 living with the Cotton family -
John Cotton 38
Elizabeth Cotton 38
Richard Thomas Cotton 13
Dorothy Cotton 12
Hellen Cotton 6
Alice Cotton 4
Mary Jane Cotton 2
James Nuttal Boothman brother in law 27 b. Burnley, Lancashire Over Looker
Jane Boothman 26 b. Belmonk, Lancashire
RG 9 Piece 3103 Folio 32 Page 7, Blackburn
JJ
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James' first marriage -
3 Dec 1854 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire
James Boothman - 22, Weaver, Bachelor, Tottington
Jane Mossop - 21, Spinster, Tottington
Groom's Father - Thomas Boothman, Weaver
Bride's Father - Clement Mossop, Printer
Witnesses - Thomas Fitton; Ra. Crompton
Married by Banns by - P. J. Williams Curate
JJ
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This could possibly be James on the 1841 -
Thomas Boothman 45
Betty Boothman 40
William Boothman 17
Ellen Boothman 18
Priscilla Boothman 20
Thomas Boothman 13
Elizabeth Boothman 11
James Boothman 9
HO107 Piece 540 Book 11 Folio 45 Page 6
There is a marriage of a Thomas Boothman to a Betty Nutter (wonder if this should be Nuttall) in 1816. Perhaps James took his mother's maiden name as his middle name later in his life.
JJ
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The James aged 9 on 1841 census (HO 107 piece 540 Bk. 11 F. 45 p.6) was living in Bank Lane which is in present-day Shuttleworth, now part of the town of Ramsbottom. On the 1851 census the family had moved a short distance to the then thriving village of Nuttall, now a park in Ramsbottom. James birthplace on 1851 census was stated as Marsden. Its possible that he adopted the middle name Nuttall from the place, if this was the correct James.
Edit. 1871 census his birthplace was Lancaster, Marsden, 1835. Was Marsden in Lancs. in 19thC ?
Birthplace of Jane Boothman on 1861 census may have been Belmont, a village between Bolton and Darwen, or Belthorn, S.E. of Blackburn. 1871 was Belmont.
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Quote:
"1871 census his birthplace was Lancaster, Marsden, 1835. Was Marsden in Lancs. in 19thC ?"
Marsden Lancashire was made up of Little Marsden which incorporated what is now Brierfield and Nelson and Great Marsden which was more towards Colne, but incorporated some of Nelson. See:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/GreatMarsden/ParishMap
Mo
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Quote:
"1871 census his birthplace was Lancaster, Marsden, 1835. Was Marsden in Lancs. in 19thC ?"
Marsden Lancashire was made up of Little Marsden which incorporated what is now Brierfield and Nelson and Great Marsden which was more towards Colne, but incorporated some of Nelson. See:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/GreatMarsden/ParishMap
Mo
Of course ! Hence the name of the local building society. I was thinking of an entirely different Marsden, in Yorkshire.
His place of abode in 1841 was later known as Walmersley-cum-Shuttleworth.
Nuttall Village, his place of abode in 1851, is now the site of Nuttall Park.
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A photo of where the Boothman family were living in 1851 is on Old Nuttall Village
www.lineone.net/-davghalgh/nuttallvillagepictures.html
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I have a letter on Swansey Mill notepaper, signed John Mossop, dated Oct 28th 1896, saying that his uncle Mr Boothman agrees to acting as returning officer in Municipal Elections St Matthews Ward.
I can supply a scan if anyone is interested. I haven't used this site long enough to know how to attach it!
Hugh
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Hi Hugh,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
The original poster has never acknowledged all the information found for them. Hopefully the op will reply to your post and request the information you have, which is very good of you to share.
JJ
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Hi, I would love to see the letter and if possible get a copy, I am just in the early stages of researching my family tree and I am related the John Mossop & James Nuttall Boothman.
I hope you can help.
Kind regards
Ian
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Hi Ian at 1973 Mossi. re: letter John Mossop about James Nuttall Boothman. It is so long since I posted that I may take a while to find the letter. I'll look, and post again, unless I have found out how to send a private message by then! Hugh
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Thank you
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re: election in 1896. I have found my scan of the letter from Mr Mossop 28 Oct 1896 on Swansey Mill letterhead, but I have not yet found the original - if I still have it.
I really can't work out how to attach things to a message, and they can't be attached to Private Messages anyway.
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Hi Hugh,
To attach images you simply use the button that says "attachments and other options"
For Help on how to post an Image on RootsChat
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=459330.0
Regards
Sarah
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Hi Hugh, thank you, is it ok if I email you tomorrow.
I really appreciate your help.
Ian
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Thank you to Sarah. I am not being offered the option to attach when I look at the Reply format, only "Don't use Smileys", "Return to this topic", and "Notify me of replies by eMail". I rather think this has to do with EITHER (a) I am posting in reply on someone else's original question or (b) I haven't posted often enough to qualify to attach. I think the same applies to my attempts to PM. So I hope that 1973Mossi contacts me to get a scan of his forebear's letter. Hugh
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Very odd, Hugh, as I too see only what you see when clicking on Attachments and other options.
Jamjar
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I have just moved the topic to the main Lancashire board, you can not attach images to the "look up" sections. You should be ok now ;)
Regards
Sarah
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Hi Hugh, what is the best way to contact you.?
Thanks Ian
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For 1973mossi
scan of Letter Mossop re Boothman and 1898 election attached.
Hugh Wolfson
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Hi Hugh, what is the best way to contact you.?
Thanks Ian
You should be able to use the personal message system now.
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Thank you Hugh, it is fantastic 😊
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This could possibly be James on the 1841 -
Thomas Boothman 45
Betty Boothman 40
William Boothman 17
Ellen Boothman 18
Priscilla Boothman 20
Thomas Boothman 13
Elizabeth Boothman 11
James Boothman 9
HO107 Piece 540 Book 11 Folio 45 Page 6
There is a marriage of a Thomas Boothman to a Betty Nutter (wonder if this should be Nuttall) in 1816. Perhaps James took his mother's maiden name as his middle name later in his life.
Marriage at St. Bartholomew, Colne.
Baptisms at St. Bart's:
1820 Priscilla; 1822 Ellen. Abode Hey Head, Little Marsden, Chapelry of Colne. Occupation weaver.
James put Marsden for birthplace on 1871 census.
Someone has put a post on Ramsbottom Heritage Society FB page about James Nuttall Boothman. It concerns a photograph, taken in 1889 of him + his former colleagues from Nuttall Mill. Contemporary newspaper article has been reproduced. Poster asked if a copy of the photo exists.
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"Blackburn Times" had a 2 page-spread biography of James Boothman, December 1910.