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Title: Emily Judd
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 17 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi, I don't think I've asked for help on her in the past but if I have I cannot find anything having used the search.
Emily appears on the 1851 census in Shoreditch aged 9 born St Leonard's Shoreditch. Her mother on this census is a Frances Leggatt. Frances was previously married to a Peter Judd who died in 1846. No marriage I can find to a James Leggatt. I cannot find a birth for Emily c 1842 in the right area. I believe she may have married after the 1861 census. There are 4 between 1861-71 in London and wonder if anyone can tell me if any of these marriages record a Peter Judd as father.

Regards

John

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Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 24 February 17 20:22 GMT (UK)
Emily's sister Cecelia married 21/9/1870 Christ church Highbury Grove Islington

Married Thomas Campion her father is given as Peter John Judd Silversmith

Jennifer
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 24 February 17 20:44 GMT (UK)
Brother Frederick william Judd Bapt 1/2/1833 st.Mary Bryanston Sq Westminster parents Peter And Frances Judd.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 17 21:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer, thanks for info so far. May I ask what Peters occupation was in 1833 at Fredericks baptism.
Thanks

John
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 24 February 17 21:07 GMT (UK)
Only index for 1833

Jessie married  25/12/1855 St Mark Shoreditch william Hood father Peter Gentleman

Jennifer
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: amondg on Friday 24 February 17 21:21 GMT (UK)
Re: Jessie Judd marriage to William Hood 25 December 1855, one witness is her sister Cecelia Judd, the other Matthew James Bishop.
There is also a marriage bond dated 17 December 1855 as Jessie was a minor, signed by her mother Frances Ann Judd widow.
William Hood was of West Hackney father Samuel Hood, father and son were Iron Merchants
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 24 February 17 21:27 GMT (UK)
Found the Bapt. For Frederick William father a poulterer
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: cath151 on Friday 24 February 17 21:30 GMT (UK)
Marriage 30th June 1875 St Leonards Shoreditch
Charles Ayley 27 Bach Hydraullic engineer
Emily Judd     25 Spin  Cook
Address 12 St Johns
Parents David Ayley,,wheelwright
Peter Judd...Carter
Witesses Ann Ayley and Sarah Judd

Cathy
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: amondg on Friday 24 February 17 21:43 GMT (UK)
1841 Census Chelsea, 18 Orsford Street
Peter Judd 40 Poulterer
Ann 32
Henry 13
Frederick 8
Jessey 5 (female)
Cecelia 3

re: baptism William Frederick Judd address was 13 Nelson's Place, born 14 January 1833, bap 1 February 1833

Added according to the GRO Peter died 1843 St Luke Chelsea Vol 3 page 29, M Quarter
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 17 21:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the various replies. This whole family are quite elusive.Cecilia died aged 86 in 1925 giving a birth c1839, but no gro ref. Emily born c 1842-44 no gro ref. Jessie did marry William Hood. Her last child with him was Percy William Hood b 1864-1871, died as Peter William Hood. Jessie was as rightly stated a minor on her marriage cert, aged 30 in 1861, aged 15 in 1851 and aged 5 in 1841. No known baptism. As or her death she does not appear in the 1871 census (William her husband died 1855 and her 2 other children are with family members suggesting she died between 1864-71, yet the only death is a Jessie Hood aged 25 in 1868???? On the 1841 census Peter Judd is a Poulterer, so why he becomes a silversmith on Cecilias marriage is a mystery.
Can we find a marriage for Emily??

Edit- William died 1866

John
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 24 February 17 21:46 GMT (UK)
Marriage 30th June 1875 St Leonards Shoreditch
Charles Ayley 27 Bach Hydraullic engineer
Emily Judd     25 Spin  Cook
Address 12 St Johns
Parents David Ayley,,wheelwright
Peter Judd...Carter
Witesses Ann Ayley and Sarah Judd

Cathy


i don;t think this is our Emily. For one the age is wrong. also there's an Emily Judd the rigth age, daughter of Peter and Sarah Judd, b Bishops Stortford. On 1881 Charles Ayley, hydraulic engineer, and wife Emily b c1851, are in bishops Stortford, and Emily is born there
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 17 21:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, Think I have just found the death of Emily Judd in 1861. She appears with her mother , Cecilia and brother Frederick in St Lukes aged 17, there's a death of an Emily Judd aged 17 in St Luke's reg dist June quarter.

John
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 24 February 17 22:08 GMT (UK)
Think that death could be the daughter of Edward And Margaret who are in St.Lukes in 1861
Title: Re: Emily Judd
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 24 February 17 22:17 GMT (UK)
This is James Leggett's butrial, so "widow" on 1861 is sort of correct! address is Britannia St, as on 1851 census

James Legget
Age    45
Burial    7 Sep 1854, St John, Hoxton