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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: denise02 on Saturday 25 February 17 09:47 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Im having problems identifying my Gr grandfathers military.. I have found this (Thomas Roache F/25638) on another page, but the name is spelt different so I'm not 100% but i also have this photo of him, I'm not sure if its a war medal or a name tag, and would be grateful for any help. On the back of the photo it is dated 1919
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It might be better to give what you know about your Grandfather.
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There is more information in a previous thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752034.msg6004823#msg6004823
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I think MaxD's reply is the best guess. I would agree that out of all of the 15 Star recipients he his the closest to being your man.
Denise - you have seen I think that in the absence of detailed service records, who your man is becomes a guessing game. I've looked again at the five Thomas Roches who earned the 14-15 Star whose medal records can be found and find that four of them left the service before April 1919. The fifth (the one I said was my first on the list) L/15815 Pte Thomas Roche of the Middlesex Regiment does not have a discharge date against his medal listing. That is not proof that he was still serving after the war but tends to push thoughts that way. Also, his service number indicates that he joined the army in June 1915 as a regular soldier (the L/ prefix indicates this) into the 4th Battalion (the Middx has four regular battalions at the start of the war), ending in the 2nd Battalion, also a regular battalion. What does all this prove, only that I can join the dots, whether this is your Thomas James Newman Roche, I don't know. If you have £30 to spare, which is what it costs to find a post 1920 service record, then go for it, perhaps after more digging at other sources such as mancpal suggests. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records#service-records-of-deceased-service-personnel
Your call, good luck.maxD
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Hi all
yes that previous thread was mine, i couldn't seem to find it to add on to it ... :) thank you all very much for your response.
Denise
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if you've time to spare you can search here to see if he was still serving post 1920.
These are MOD released documents;
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/foi-responses-released-by-mod-week-commencing-1-december-2014
Scroll down to ;
Attachment 1: service personnel indexed data for those with a date of birth date prior to 1901 & search by DOB as they are not in Alphabetical order.
There are 8 attachments in total.
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Thank you i will most def take the time to look today :)
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Another bit of good guidance Jim. I thought I'd seen his picture before!
maxD
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Your memory is obviously better than
mine Mick Max.
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Im going through them lists Jim, not found him yet LOL
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What's his DOB ?
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according to the 1939register it is 6th october 1899
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Sounds about right as his birth was registered Dec. Q of that year.
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yea .. was nothing under the date of birth 1899 on that attachment u said about
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Have you done all 8 of them
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Aha nah i just did first my bad,I'm on it now thanks :D
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Am doing a year or two before swell incase he lied bout his age
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Done all the Nov's 1899 & he hasn't shown up.
B***** it's October.
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Rather than searching for a date, would it be easier to do a Control+F and search for Roche?
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good idea will give it a try .. i need to enable editing to do that right
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Have gone through all, but no thomas J N Roche
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That's a pity, maybe he wasn't in post 1920 after all or he was left off for some reason.
You could try the MOD from MaxD's link just to make sure.
All the indicators are that he was still serving.
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okie cool thanks much apppricated