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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Robbj on Saturday 25 February 17 21:39 GMT (UK)
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Hello
Any ideas what the bottom two lines in the left box and the bottom two of the right box say?
This is a birth cert. The child is illegitimate but the father is listed. The left box is where it would normally list the date and location of marriage. The right box is under the fathers signature.
J
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It's almost too close up to read, could you take a scan of a slightly larger area, showing more of the document? Or give a link?
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Welcome to rootschat J. :)
I agree with Dublin that a better scan including a bit more or the surrounding writing may help.
My first thought is that the last word in the left box look a bit like "Abode" ....
Added:
Looking again, and without having much knowledge about Irish* place names, I see:
Left box:
_ami__l Derry_ill_d
Abode
Right box:
_oodside of W Ren_
Boo__die
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*Is this a Scottish cert?
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Hi J,
Hope you don't mind, thought this may look a bit better?
You haven't stated where, which would give us a clue for searches?
My thought on the left side;
Domestic Servant
Domicil, Berryhillock ?
Ab'sh (Aberdeenshire) ?
My thought on the right side;
John -------
Father
Reidside ? of -----
Boyndie
Annie
Added, Can you please post an expanded view (above/below/sideways) for letter formation comparison as the writing is pretty difficult to work out & also what the column headings are?
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Hi J,
Can you tell us what year please?
I found a Berry Hill (Former County Aberdeenshire)
https://canmore.org.uk/site/18115/berry-hill
Annie
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Ruskie,
You're good with maps, can you see what you can find please on either of those places or both for Berryhill/Berry Hill, Aberdeenshire & Reid/Reedside, Boyndie (Aberdeenshire), if anything but of course we don't know the era ::)
Annie
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It's almost too close up to read, could you take a scan of a slightly larger area, showing more of the document? Or give a link?
Hi Dublin,
I forgot to mention earlier (was in between doing other things), it looks to me to be a Scottish cert?
If so, no link as it will only be on SP unless added to a tree which will only have the same image.
Annie
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I think it may say 'Woodside' rather than 'Reidside'
Isobel
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Also possibly Berryhillocks, Alvah.
Isobel
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I think the other one might be Woodside of Whinty (Whynty), Boyndie.
Isobel
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J, I suspect that the suggestions above, might be on the money, but you should request a clearer copy of any illegible certificates from Scotland's People.
They are very obliging.
A clearer copy will confirm if the above are correct. :)
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Thanks all. Yes its Scotland and Boyndie, Banffshire which is north east is correct.
The top line on the left does say domestic servant. The bottom two lines on the left are normally where the parents' date and place of marriage are listed but they were not married.
On the right it says John Spalding father, but again the bottom two are key.
Basically this John Spalding completely disappears. The mother is Anne Barclay whom he never marries. This cert is their son, also John. Years later when their son marries he is listed as reputed father.
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isobelw,
You did well on that, thanks as my eyes were coming together ;D
Robbi,
You haven't given us a date which would help locate those places from isobel on maps as different maps show/don't show different places i.e. dates can help locate them as boundaries changed over the years?
Annie
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Best I can find (hopeless with maps)
https://canmore.org.uk/site/293467/wooside-of-whyntie (now Banff, Boyndie Airfield)
Would have been good to see a pic of the farm.
Berryhillocks, Alvah
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/record/nls/6648/ordnance-survey-25-inch-mile-banff-sheet-01008/os25inch
Annie