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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Stanwix England on Tuesday 28 February 17 18:26 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm trying to trace a William Axe who was born in about 1794.
What I do know
He had children with a women called Dinah.
He lived in Epworth at least between 1820 and 1841, and had at least 4 children there, George 1820, John 1821, Harriot 1824 and William 1835.
He probably died in Epworth in 1847.
He appears on the 1841 census, occupation Blacksmith.
What I don't know
Whether or not he and Dinah were married. I cannot find a marriage record for them.
Where he was born.
Who his parents were.
What his wife's maiden name was.
Why I am confused about his birth place
On the 1841 census it says that William was not born in Lincolnshire. The column 'Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts' is ticked, indicating he was not born in England. It is also ticked for his wife Dinah, suggesting she was not born in England either.
However Dinah outlives him by some length and makes it to another 3 census records. On each census she gives her birth location as being Yorkshire, although the precise location changes from Little Smeaton (twice) to Wormsley (once). This is easily explained as these places are only 2 miles apart according to Google maps.
So that has made me question the accuracy of the information about their births on the 1841 census. It was correct that Dinah was not born in Lincolnshire, but she was born in England contrary to the tick by her name. So could it be that William's was wrong too?
I can't find him anywhere on Scottish or Irish records. The surname Axe barely even appears in these records, so it seems unlikely he was really from there. He could be from 'foreign parts' as they called it in those days I suppose.
I'd be grateful for any insight anyone could provide.
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Possible from freereg, one to keep on file or disregard.
Diana MULL
William AXE Marriage 08 Jul 1815 Lincolnshire Crowle : St Oswald
Both single, his age 20, hers 19.
Cas
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There is a baptism in Hatfield, Yorks of a William son of John Axe Blacksmith and Elizabeth (nee Watt daughter of John Watt). He was born 19 Oct 1794 and baptised 30 Oct same year.
Hatfield is not that far fromm Little Smeaton and Wormesley
There is also a marriage at Crowle, Lincolnshire on 8 July 1815 between William Axe age 20 and Diana Mell age19 witnesses Samuel Stones and James Isle. As James Isle signs on another marriage on the same page I presume he may well be a Church Warden.
Emeltom
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Thank you Cas (stallc) and emeltom, that looks like information which is a very good fit.
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There is this bapt
Diana Mell
Birth date 04 Oct 1795
Baptism date 30 Jan 1796
Baptism place Womersley
Father John
Mother Catharine
Same Bapt from Pontefract district bapts, info as above but includes:
Residence Little Smeaton
Church St. Martin
Place WOMERSLEY
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Fathers Occupation Farmer
Notes b. 4 Oct 1795
Cas
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On the 1841 census it says that William was not born in Lincolnshire. The column 'Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts' is ticked, indicating he was not born in England. It is also ticked for his wife Dinah, suggesting she was not born in England either.
You are misunderstanding the enumerator's marks. The ticks in the final column simply indicate - for counting purposes - that they were not "born in county" (following an n in the county column).
The age at death of the 1847 entry was given as 53.
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Thanks for that baptism Cat (stallc)
Thanks for clearing that up Geoff-E, it's useful for avoiding future confusion of this type as I suspect this is going to come up again for me as this lot (my husbands relatives) seem to move around frequently.
I think I got confused because of the two columns, one which is the county one (which in this case has an 'n' for William and Dina), and then a second column headed 'Whether born in Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts'.
I'd assumed that let say if you were born in Yorkshire but living in Lincolnshire you'd get a 'n' in the county column, but the 'Whether born in Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts' would be left blank thus indicating you were born in England. But if you were living in Lincolnshire but born in Scotland you'd get a 'n' in the county column and a tick in the 'Whether born in Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts' showing that you were not born in Lincolnshire or in England.
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Possible marriage, seems she was a minor, image of marriage on FindMyPast. There are a number of hits and various dates for marriage. Image says 17th
John Mell
Age 30
Marriage date 17 Jun 1779
Marriage place Adlingfleet
Spouse Catherine Hopkinson
Spouse b 1760
Spouse's father John Hopkinson
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Just come across this marriage which is interesting
16 May 1774 Crowle, Lincolnshire John Mell and Catherine Dinnis both resident in Crowle.
Same place William Axe married Diana Mell
Emeltom
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Hi,
Thanks for the further information emeltom and Cast (stallc).
I've been researching William's siblings and he was one of at least 11. No wonder he moved, can't have been much room left in that house!
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William did marry Dinah at Crowle in 1815. The family can be traced back in unbroken descent to 1639 in Mexborough; descendants of William exist also. Check out the family tree information on Ancestry under goughjane83 for example.
William Axe (1794-1847)
Birth: 19/10/1794
Baptism: 30/10/1794, St Lawrence’s, Hatfield
Marriage: 8/7/1815, Crowle, to Diana Mell
Death: 24/11/1847, Sandtoft
Burial: 26/11/1847, St Andrew’s, Epworth
Source: Baptism record
Marriage record
Baptism record Ann Maria (1817); (George) 1819, (John) 1821, (Harriett) 1823, (William) 1835
Census records 1841
Poll Book Lindsey 1841
House of Commons - Report from Committees, 1843
Hull Packet 1844, 1847
Burial record
Kelly’s Directory 1855
White’s Directory 1856
William was the son of John Axe and Elizabeth Watt. He was born and baptised in the same month, October 1794.
After banns, William married Diana Mell at the parish church of Crowle in July 1815. Both appear to be literate. The marriage record shows him as aged twenty and his wife as nineteen. Both were listed as of that parish. William’s evidence to the Commons Select Committee in 1843 stated that he had lived in Epworth since at least 1818 (see below). Prior to that, he and Dinah may have lived around Hatfield as their first daughter, Ann Maria, was baptised there in August 1817. William was listed as a blacksmith but his wife is given as Mary in the baptismal register, perhaps due to the entry directly above which is for the child of a William and Mary Lee.
William is listed as a blacksmith at the baptism of his son George in 1819. Diana’s name is written variously throughout her life. Here, the mother’s name is written as Diana; likewise with John’s baptism in 1821 but as Dinah in 1823 for Harriett’s. She is listed as Diana again at the baptism of their final child, William.
At the time of the 1841 census William and his family were living on High Street, Epworth. William was listed as a blacksmith. That same year William voted in the parliamentary elections. He was eligible as a copyholder and voted for two of the three candidates (Lord Worsley, Mr Christopher and the Hon. C H Cust) for the two positions to represent Lindsey in Parliament. William voted for the first two both of whom were returned. He was registered under Epworth.
Epworth was the subject of a report from the Select Committee of the House of Commons regarding a petition for the repeal of the Corn Laws. The original petition was presented on 9th May with a second 15th June complaining that the first was a forgery. William was called as a witness on 10th July 1843 and was questioned as to whether or not he had signed the petition or whether his young son William had signed it. He acknowledged that he could write in his own hand and answered “no” on both points. William stated that he was the blacksmith at Epworth and that he had a “situation” in Sandtoft so was not often in Epworth. He added that he had been a resident of Epworth for more than twenty-five years.
The following year, in August 1844, William was before the local court in Epworth accusing George Hague, of Belton, of assaulting him. He was described as an innkeeper of Sandtoft. The newspaper records that the case was postponed until the next meeting as there were no witnesses to the assault. There may be some irony in the event as William’s son, William, married a Hague from Belton in later years.
The Hull Packet records an obituary in 1847 and describes how an inquest found that William had died of apoplexy at his eldest son’s house after an argument with his younger son earlier in the day. His elder son is named as a blacksmith and the younger a wheelwright: presumably referring to George and John respectively. William was buried at St Andrew’s, Epworth, two days later.
William’s widow Dinah lived on for many years. By the time of the 1851 census she is listed as the innkeeper at the Rein Deer Inn, Belton, and also farming ten acres of land. In 1855 she is listed as residing at The Stag at Sandtoft and one year later she was listed both as a blacksmith and at the Rein Deer. She died in 1878 and was buried on 3rd February in Epworth parish.
Richard Axe
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Hi,
Thank you so much for this. My apologies that it has taken me so long to reply to you, I've been away and unable to get online.
I'm really excited to share this information with my Mother in Law who is the Axe in my family tree.
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You're welcome. Interested to know the line of descent for your mother-in-law. I'm trying to keep up with the current Axe connections as well as working backwards and sideways.
Richard
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William and Diana Mell are my 3rd great-grandparents